Sloonei
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Beefing it up with CapsFan:
To be clear, my argument here has to do with the semantics of CapsFan's framing of his Calvin suspicion. I think his opening sentence is worded in a way that suggests the read is not authentic. I expect that this is going to seem completely unreasonable to folks who've never played with me before, but this is a thing that I do.
He also tacks on an additional piece of a case against Calvin, and I don't think it makes sense. It's a Mr. Fantastic-esque stretch to suggest that Calvin was trying to deflect suspicion onto me yesterday, and also a bizarre leap to suggest that I "caught Calving in a lie", and that this move was then somehow anticipated by the mafia, who preemptively silenced me(?). Calvin was a town read of mine for most of the day, and during Night 1 had dropped down only to a middle-tier read on my rainbow. He'd been receptive to my hunting on Day 1. I don't think any of this suggests an urgency on Calvin's part to have me silenced.
Another minor ping I get here is "Why the kill didn't go through, I don't know." That remark seems shoehorned in. It's not entirely relevant to the discussion of my silencing, but it's tucked into the middle of it arbitrarily. My guess is Caps does have an idea as to why the kill failed because he picked the target.
Part of me feels like CapsFan wanted to be seen responding to my post. But that's an aside to my main point.I'm aware. Do you fault me for still feeling the need to respond to what he said?
This could very easily be an opportunistic suspicion. Speedchuck said something goofy, and that one goofy thing is used as the sole justification for a case against him. The point about mistakenly defending Aussie almost has legs, until you realize that an entire night phase would have passed in which scumchuck would have had to not notice that is team was down a member. Again, this is an aside to USDA approved beef I have with this post:Top town are bulba account, Sloonei, and Ereshkigal. Top mafia are speedchuck, Calvin, and Spiritual Mask Salesman.
[Justification for town reads]
Mafia: Regarding speedchuck, the two miller claim thing is so weird to me. Firstly, never before have I seen a game with two millers in it. Second, if speedchuck wasn't reading the thread, then this could have been a defense of AussieEevee who we know to be mafia. If he was reading the thread, I don't see any reason why he would post that.
We'll start with that opening refrain to the Calvin suspicion. Is that not an awkward way to frame a suspicion? "Calvin is on this list because..." It is almost like Caps is suggesting that a fabrication is necessary in order to put Calvin in the position of Primary Suspect. "I have selected Calvin as a suspect, and now I will need to produce a reason for that." The cart is in front of the horse. "... because of the shady interactions..." may also reveal a seam in the fabricated case here. He does not say "I suspect Calvin because of his interactions with AussieEevee." The interactions have been pre-qualified as shady by others, and those interactions were sufficient to put Calvin on a list.Calvin is on this list because of the shady interactions between him and AussieEevee, which I and others have talked about before. I also don't believe that mafia would have targeted him because he is a player whom many others are suspicious of, and those kinds of players are better left for lynches or vig kills.
To be clear, my argument here has to do with the semantics of CapsFan's framing of his Calvin suspicion. I think his opening sentence is worded in a way that suggests the read is not authentic. I expect that this is going to seem completely unreasonable to folks who've never played with me before, but this is a thing that I do.
The Calvin vote is Part 2 of my major beef here, and this requires, in part, a nod to the context of this post. CapsFan made a couple of quick posts upon entering the thread Day 2, then was silent for a bit. Jay asked him directly for reads, and he responded with this post, capped off with a vote for Calvin. That he stated this case so confidently and then put a vote only after being prodded may suggest that he was feeling obligated to put a vote down at this point. He was silent until it was required of him to say something, and now that he'd taken off he wanted to seal his denouncement of Calvin with a vote.Spiritual Mask Salesman, as I have also said before, made that odd push for a nova lynch early in Day 1. He also kind of just threw his vote onto an already large AussieEevee wagon at the very end of the phase. I know that he looks better than I do for at least voting, but I don't think that throwaway votes help your cause in one way or another.
[VOTE]: Calvin
I think that out of these three players, Calvin is most likely to be mafia. I believe the mafia decided to silence Sloonei rather than kill them because they thought the doctor was going to be on him, so they went elsewhere. Sloonei was a good choice to silence, as well, because of his vocality. Why the kill didn't go through, I don't know. I have a theory that Sloonei caught Calvin in a lie last night and Calvin is trying to say that the mafia targeted him to deflect suspicion back onto Sloonei given the results that Ereshkigal received as well as the fact that Sloonei cannot defend himself.
He also tacks on an additional piece of a case against Calvin, and I don't think it makes sense. It's a Mr. Fantastic-esque stretch to suggest that Calvin was trying to deflect suspicion onto me yesterday, and also a bizarre leap to suggest that I "caught Calving in a lie", and that this move was then somehow anticipated by the mafia, who preemptively silenced me(?). Calvin was a town read of mine for most of the day, and during Night 1 had dropped down only to a middle-tier read on my rainbow. He'd been receptive to my hunting on Day 1. I don't think any of this suggests an urgency on Calvin's part to have me silenced.
Another minor ping I get here is "Why the kill didn't go through, I don't know." That remark seems shoehorned in. It's not entirely relevant to the discussion of my silencing, but it's tucked into the middle of it arbitrarily. My guess is Caps does have an idea as to why the kill failed because he picked the target.