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Mafia Pokemon The First Movie Mafia - Day 3

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ZinnLav said:
He's been posting in thread the least and thus is less likely to have seen the miller claim of the three of you.
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Also, does this mean you'd rather lynch the most inactive mafia, then the most active? In that case why not vote jd or Kender using the same reasoning?
 
Calvin ッ said:
I mean it's fair, but wasn't I under small suspicion that I would be mafia by voting Zachie, from you no less?

And you were also against lynching the inactives:

You were a town read but going back on yourself so quickly does raise suspicions from me, what is with the sudden change of heart?

Unless you're assuming Zachie is still in the game because he has a night action, but this was the reasoning behind my vote, that I assumed he was using actions which I also believed up until this post

I have my doubts, I still think you're town, but now thats moreso because you're trying to get the game moving, hence I won't be so quick to vote you, as I don't want to waste any more day phases. It just seems a bit hypocritical to me. I just want to know your reasoning
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These are fair points, but I was against voting for inactive, and then Zachie posted, which could mean if he submitted a night action as Mafia without reading the thread properly he would've missed the Miller claim. Or this could be a play by someone who's active to make the people who came back from inactivity look scummy instead.
 
Calvin ッ said:
Also, does this mean you'd rather lynch the most inactive mafia, then the most active? In that case why not vote jd or Kender using the same reasoning?
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I mean honestly with my prior post, you could even be Mafia, you're the most active person other than me, easy town points and you're basically leading the game.
 
ZinnLav said:
I mean honestly with my prior post, you could even be Mafia, you're the most active person other than me, easy town points and you're basically leading the game.
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Completely valid, you're the same from my POV though :/

ZinnLav said:
These are fair points, but I was against voting for inactive, and then Zachie posted, which could mean if he submitted a night action as Mafia without reading the thread properly he would've missed the Miller claim. Or this could be a play by someone who's active to make the people who came back from inactivity look scummy instead.
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Valid again, I understand a bit more what you meant, I personally still think it's a bit of a stretch, and due to it being his birthday idk if I feel like it can be written off, but alas, is there really any other target right now

Idk man i'm just wary about throwing votes or lynches on anyone and everyone, but it's easy to just hide in the crowd when you aren't really providing anything to the game (as in not you inparticular), but I think i've been so passive for so long that I need to start pushing lynches otherwise it's just sus on my end

Everything you say about me is the same back to you, yeah you're moving the game forward, yeah you're providing content and stuff, but there's no opening at the minute on who is town, don't wanna accuse you or talk too soon but if you are Maf, or even Indep if any, then i'm being played like a fiddle

With all that being said, out of everyone left theres no one whose really anywhere near as town looking as yourself
 
Here's what I got anyways in its most basic form:

ZinnLav - actually providing stuff for us to go off, even if I didn't fully agree on the Zachie vote
jdthebud - has provided minorly, I opened OC with him so i'm hoping we get a bit more out of him, less afk than the others though
KenderCharmeleon - Early game was decent, provided their thoughts and contributed, but there's nothing that stands out that would make him towny, not ISO'd yet but I saw a post saying he wasn't here, not expecting much from him today, the joke vote was a little weird later on into the game, hence making him in the middle, I wouldn't say "null" though, more town than otherwise right now
Pika_pika42 - Has made one actual relevant game post all game, did notify for absence though, so much like Zachie in my opinion
Zachie - See above, basically the same
MegaPod - Kinda CWACy, with one relevant game post again, the other posts are just responding to the lynch or something, not really anything worthwhile there to be fair

I have them as my null reads but I want to say that we'd find the mafia team, or at the very least one of them in those last three people, which makes me want to vote Zachie to be honest.

@ZinnLav I'd really like to know your thoughts, I think they are the most valuable right now. I'm willing to go either way on the lynch, but I just want to raise this point before I put my vote on Zachie, as I've already shown I'm not against voting him. But if he is inactive AND mafia, then that would mean someone else who is more active would be having to do the night kill and actions if any, I feel like our resources would be better on that person, whomever it is

again, just looking for your opinion before we go into things, there's no hammer and we still have 20 hours, I ain't gonna lie when I say my patience is kinda wearing thin a bit now with the activity
 
Zinn: Honestly the day one vote change to Calvin felt a bit sudden, not nefarious just strange. “Yeah but it's also a tactic to be pretty active so nobody suspects you for trying to get the game going.” sounds like he’s hiding in plain sight here.

Pod: Being verrrrrrrry cwac. Not really doing a lot of anything?

Calvin: Voted for me at an earlier day to get a vote going, now seems to be against a lynch on me.. Not that I’m really complaining here lol but it’s strange to see him flip like that.

Kender: feels a bit like he’s playing the new angle a bit too much. “I’ll take some advice that I received” suggests another chat.

jbthebud: who? i swear i saw them like 2 times throughout the whole game when I read back..

pika: inactive as well.

Based on the information I have.. my thoughts at the moment are Kender/Zinn as a scum team. Zinn is very forthcoming to Kender with information, Kender playing off my vote as a "joke" and then Zinn jumping on as well. Feels like a very easy lynch train for them to get people behind, especially since I'm so inactive up until now which makes me look scummy.

Zinn is the stronger player of the two, so:

VOTE: ZinnLav
 
Whatever alignment you are ty for a reads list, it's helpful to have

Zachie said:
Calvin: Voted for me at an earlier day to get a vote going, now seems to be against a lynch on me.. Not that I’m really complaining here lol but it’s strange to see him flip like that.
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In not against lynching you, at all. I understand you've been inactive for your birthday and I don't really want to hold it against you. Your inactivity even after a pressure vote is what stops me though, so I'm not sure if we should use a day phase on who I believed was an inactive mafia member, over their active partner(s)

And also, if you were to go off my voting post you'd see its the opposite, I didn't want a wagon starting on you nor did I actually want you to be lynched, I wanted you to show up, hence I called it a pressure vote. I did also say I'd remove it if you came back in fairness

I really quite badly need to go sleep, its 8am, are you that certain that Zinn / Kender is a team? Again reiterating I do have a town read on Zinn, and a ever so slight townlean read on Kender. If anything I'm just surprised our opinions differ so much I suppose. I don't want to defend anyone too hard at all though

Be all end all I just want to make sure all of town (Even though you're an Indep I guess??) is on the same wavelength, hence I'm kinda forcing reads down your throat, especially for the final phases, this game is easily winnable for us if you're willing to help town

I honestly don't think I'll be around for endphase, since as I said I need to sleep, I'll try and wake up beforehand to respond to anything and everything way before the phase end

Sorry for any spelling / gramma mistakes if any, I'm shattered
 
Calvin ッ said:
I really quite badly need to go sleep, its 8am, are you that certain that Zinn / Kender is a team? Again reiterating I do have a town read on Zinn, and a ever so slight townlean read on Kender. If anything I'm just surprised our opinions differ so much I suppose. I don't want to defend anyone too hard at all though
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That's just where I sit at the moment. They seem to be working together in a way, and the Zinn vote on me just after Kender's "joke" vote and then Kender saying that it "works" sits with me a bit as an organised vote timed with me coming back.
 
Unvote: Zachie
Vote: jdthebud

I'm gonna go with my gut feeling I've had since D1, especially when you add in the fact that he forgot about a miller claim that resulted in the first lynch of the game (because someone else counter claimed Miller)
 
Ah well sorry for being late. I was on vacation this weekend. Well okay, sorry for the bad joke and taking advice. Like obviously, I should not listen to advise on my second MAFIA game ever. :sneaky: Like yeah, I decided to trust Zinn for now, since there is nothing solid against him right now, or against anyone of you.

I voted for you as a joke Zachie for your birthday, since I thought it was to be fun. But I could really have voted for anyone in this game, we have nothing concrete than go by guts.

Zinn : Going from extreme thought process to the exact contrary. IMO, all normal, since it's Zinn. It could be either Town or Mafia, but I have a small lean toward Town.

JD : Since always goes against the current reasoning in place, but in another way, we kept lynching Town People since the start. It could be either Town or Mafia too. I think he is Town.

Pod : Well, he said some exclamation, I'm sure he is here. Still, not posting a lot. It could be either, but I get that MAFIA feeling.

Pika : Pika not posting a lot, did a useful post when I posted for him. It can be either, but I think he is might be MAFIA too.

Calvin : Well true, he is the leader here. And sure, this position makes him the more suspicious since the game going wrongly from the start. But doing nothing isn't great also. Could be either also without proof, but I refuse to think he is Mafia just because he is pushing the game forward, and then, discouraging everyone who want to stand out. Still not sure at the end about him though.

Zachie : No idea, didn't post much, but that last post was useful too, and I might take his advice into consideration. Except the one of not taking advice :p

Unvote : Zachie
Vote : MegaPod
 
Honestly my vote is a coin flip at the minute, but I would not be surprised if both the people I'm thinking of are our scum team, in jdthebud & MegaPod, and if they somehow don't turn out to be maf then it's a fairly anti town playstyle which doesn't make it any better

Otherwise it's Kender and Zinn which I refuse to believe, otherwise good game I guess but nothing Zinn has done in thread and OC points to that too much

I don't think it's Kender, but this is mostly going of what others think, it's been fairly hard for me to get a solid read on him as he's a new player, however I did rate him high up in my reads list earlier.

I did the same with jdthebud, and I was just kinda hoping for a little bit more but it never came, in any case I had MegaPod as my lowest down read in that list, and whether jdthebud is or isn't mafia, he has (albeit very minorly) been more town lkke just by sheer points of being a bit more active

I don't think it matters which way we vote this day phase, as long as one of them flips Maf then we go for the other after, in my opinion

Vote: MegaPod
 
Unvote: jdthebud
Vote: MegaPod

I agree with Calvin's reasoning, it's probably either jd or Mega or both, so may as well tip the scales enough the vote doesn't shift last second.
 
Night 3
  • Index
    • @ZinnLav: Zachie
    @Acrobatic Crobat:
    @KenderCharmeleon:
    @Calvin ッ:
    @jdthebud:
    @Pika_pika42:
    @Zachie:,
    @MegaPod:KenderCharmeleon, Calvin, ZinnLav
    @AussieEevee:
    @DarthWolf:


    Megapod was lynched. He was:


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    It is now Night 3. Phase ends at 0:00 AWST on the 27th November 2019.

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