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Mafia Seraph of the End Mafia - Game End (16/03/2020)

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CyanideCrystal said:
Final verdict: A little less active than Kender, maybe hiding? Seems to be playing differently than in Cells. Pretty friendly with Midorikawa, unlike Kender. A lot of random votes.
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What "random" votes?

It's cool that you went over the thread a bit - but who of the two are you voting?
 
I reread all of my points and I will have to go:

Vote: KenderCharmeleon

I think Midorikawa was attempting to bus him. I looked into her previous games and that's the aggresive play she usually goes for. She barely even acknowledged Tood, who yeah, voted badly, but at least he voted at all, which is more than I can say about Kender.

DawningWinds makes good points though, and if it wasn't for Kender being more suspicious I'd go for Tood.

I'm just worried we will end up with a tie at the end.
 
CyanideCrystal said:
I'm just worried we will end up with a tie at the end.
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You mean a tie in votes, or at the end of this game? The former will lead to a random lynch target, and the latter can't happen unless there's some other hostile indep somewhere.
 
So, two people haven't voted yet.

DekuNut and KenderChameleon.

They will probably vote ZinnLav.

Everyone has posted but nobody has outed as the killer to take the credit. That means, I can start being paranoid that Zachie is a Serial Killer who killed Midorikawa because he hates Edelgard.
 
HumanDawn said:
What "random" votes?
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D1 - Tood admits he voted for Felly only because he "pulled something out of his ass". Was the last one on the wagon.
D2 - Tood votes the most popular wagon again as one of the last ones. And I didn't really see a lot of solid reasons for this, but I might be wrong.
D3 - Votes Kender without much explanation.

Tood said:
You mean a tie in votes, or at the end of this game? The former will lead to a random lynch target, and the latter can't happen unless there's some other hostile indep somewhere.
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Tie in votes. Right now we're 2 - Tood, 3 - Kender, but when Kender gets here I expect him to vote Tood. And I'd rather we chose who to lynch, as much as you both look a bit shady.
 
CyanideCrystal said:
D1 - Tood admits he voted for Felly only because he "pulled something out of his ass". Was the last one on the wagon.
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Yeah this is true
D2 - Tood votes the most popular wagon again as one of the last ones. And I didn't really see a lot of solid reasons for this, but I might be wrong.
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Tood said:
If you were town, why not make cases against those you suspect, like Mido? Do you think making cases against people is always bad? How is town even supposed to win if they don't make cases against anyone they suspect? Do you expect random lynches every time, or something?
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Tood said:
His opposition to any sort of suspicion-casting really doesn't help him look any better. Not sharing his thoughts on other players even when asked isn't productive to town, either.
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I've posted suspicions on Snowstorm, so don't act like this is completely random. The latter was even a response to you.

D3 - Votes Kender without much explanation.
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Tood said:
I think Kender's excuse that he's only being passive in comparison to previous games is a bit odd here, though. He says he relied on town-based information to help him play, but at the very least, Cells at Work had only a cop as an investigative role; no watcher or tracker or anything. Having the insane modifier present also kind of lowered any usefulness of investigative roles we could have had either. Compared to this game, he's most definitely less active. The apparent reliance on other people's roles just seems a bit like he's trying to get others to claim, which doesn't sit well with me.
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I should just quote these things everytime I vote, huh?
 
I see. I'm sorry then. I was checking mostly the "Vote" posts when it came to this issue and when I saw a post without a lot explanation I thought I saw a pattern, where as I see it now you mostly space out your deductions across several posts and then vote in another. Which made it harder for me to catch all of your points.

That was my bad.
 
Ok, I won't go back on things I already said. I read all your post and you all made a lot of sense. Sadly, the only thing I can say about my case is that you are wrong, but I guess, there is only one way for you all to know for sure.

The thing is that I made a lot of correct call. Since I was the most suspect, Mido clearly tried to made me the next lynch as soon as people started to suspect him. Yes, I admit it can look like distancing from me, but I don't know what you want her to distance from, we never been pally in this game in the first place.

Though, Tood was pretty much lax about it. And was coming in the topic only to follow other wagon like. It's pretty clear to me that you are making an error on voting on me. People only suspecting me for my non vote on day 1, which I wasn't the first really, and for unvoting someone who was obviously Town imo.

In both of the winning wagon, Tood was there... Well not just Tood, but since everyone seems convinced that HD is all clear, I'm ready to accept that for now. I won't go that way. I'll focus on who is probably the second Mafia imo.

Vote: Tood
 
HumanDawn said:
:unsure:

Can I get some reasoning as to why Tood went for Cyanide of all players with just :unsure: and Cyanide just voted Tood back?

Are you two on particularly friendly terms?
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It's a joke vote. The cancer from last game rubbed off on me, I guess.
 
KenderCharmeleon said:
and for unvoting someone who was obviously Town imo.
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KenderCharmeleon said:
Aaaahhh :confused: I don't have time for this, I need to get on my bus. But... Gladiator would make sense Lore Wise I bet. :\ Also, there is no time for a counterclaim. What to do, what to do!?

Unvote : Snowstorm
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for somebody that was obviously town you sure sounded certain bruh
 
I just assumed he did that, because of our previous game together, where I turned out to be anti-Town. And I voted him back cause it was the first half of the first day so everyone was just doing joke votes.
 
Tood said:
It's a joke vote. The cancer from last game rubbed off on me, I guess.
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CyanideCrystal said:
I just assumed he did that, because of our previous game together, where I turned out to be anti-Town. And I voted him back cause it was the first half of the first day so everyone was just doing joke votes.
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'Aight. I asked because every time I re-read the thread I got paranoid about both of you being partners trying to do some weird distancing.
 
Zachie said:
also to be fair if i was a vig that had just killed mafia i definitely would not take the credit bc i'd just be opening myself up to dying in the next night phase :p
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Considering there's an uncounterclaimed cop and vigis can kill townies, too, no. Unless the mafia really don't think there's any reason to fear me.

Zachie said:
i love edelgard :[ i would never kill her!
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I think HD was actually referring to Mido hating Edelgard. However, HD probably used the wrong pronoun referring to her.
 
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