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Preview JN116: Champions' Pride! Wataru VS Carne!!

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Yes, but I don't care much. The main thing is fights! Fight! fights. It doesn't matter who wins. Nice Pokemon would also be great and of course nice attacks that have nothing to do with Hyperbeam and Shadow Ball.
 
I hope that they are not ONLY strong Pokemon but also interesting ones that you haven't seen in battle (Rillaboom and Chesnaught) Nice fights look different to me than Shadowball Thunderbolt big cloud of smoke. Morpeko and Chandelier are still standing: Morpeko suddenly collapses. Buuuuh. No, that's what a proper fight looks like: 1. First your opponent has a big lead 2. Then you develop a strategy 3. You win easily. Or e.g. uses Noctowl uses a dive Swellow also huhhh explosion dust is whirled up both are K.O. NO POKEMON NOT SO EASY
 
Uh... so that means Iris doesn't even get to fight Lance... what's the point of having two Dragon masters if one wants to be the best, yet neither of them fight each other?
Iris has gotten so little build-up, development and/or focus in Journeys, that I find that very easy to digest in the same way Ash didn't get to the finals or even battled his rival during his first League. If Iris got to fight Lance here it would've felt terribly artificial, more so than it already is.
 
Iris has gotten so little build-up, development and/or focus in Journeys, that I find that very easy to digest in the same way Ash didn't get to the finals or even battled his rival during his first League. If Iris got to fight Lance here it would've felt terribly artificial, more so than it already is.
If they'd just added her to the audience of the Leon vs Lance episode, and then given her an episode about defeating Alder, her inclusion here would be more believable.
 
I think I'd rather Diantha win honestly. Honestly, Lance has the same issue to me as Wallace where he has never really felt like the champion of any game. Both gens he was the 'champion', he was basically a red herring for the person who truly was the regions strongest trainer. In Gen 1, Blue was the true champion and in gen 2, right after you beat him, you find out there is Kanto and Red is the true strongest Pokémon trainer in the region. I never really felt Lance to be on the level of someone like Steven or Cynthia personally
 
Honestly, Lance has the same issue to me as Wallace where he has never really felt like the champion of any game.
May be because of my many playthroughs of Emerald, but I actually like Wallace as a Champion. Despite being a Water-type expert, he makes great use of the secondary types of his Pokémon.
 
May be because of my many playthroughs of Emerald, but I actually like Wallace as a Champion. Despite being a Water-type expert, he makes great use of the secondary types of his Pokémon.
I like Wallace too! One of my favorite characters in the entire franchise but I often forget that he's the champion since even the game he was champion in, Steven is the 'final boss'. It's why even though I like his personality and his team, I don't really see him as equal to some of the other champs
 
May be because of my many playthroughs of Emerald, but I actually like Wallace as a Champion. Despite being a Water-type expert, he makes great use of the secondary types of his Pokémon.
Wallace does have my respect for actually being the post-gen 1 boss that gave me the most trouble by a good margin (Cynthia was a breeze in comparison), though a lot of that came down to not being able to 2 hit KO Milotic.

But for this match I'm rooting for Diantha for a less repetitive round 2 and because it'd be funnier if she beats Lance.
 
May be because of my many playthroughs of Emerald, but I actually like Wallace as a Champion. Despite being a Water-type expert, he makes great use of the secondary types of how Pokémon.
This speaks to me, for Emerald was my first main series game, and Blaziken was my starter. And I had verrry little concept of type effectiveness back in 2005 when I played Emerald for the first time, soooo you can all guess how my first battle with Wallace went, challenging him with Blaziken as my main. And the second time. And the third. Honestly, I forget just how many times he whupped my butt. But I kept getting a little bit stronger with each defeat, and eventually my Blaziken was strong enough (like, high 80's or 90's, not really sure, pretty sure it was close to level 100 by that point, I know it reached level 100 eventually, my first Pokemon to do so, :giggle:) to breeze tight through the E4 and Wallace himself. After all these years, I still remember my beloved Blaziken's moveset. It was: Blaze Kick, Slash, Double Kick, and Dynamic Punch (which I distinctly remember having it learn because I liked the way the name sounded and how it looked. :p Hated that terrible accuracy, though. Still do. :mad:)
 
Uh... so that means Iris doesn't even get to fight Lance... what's the point of having two Dragon masters if one wants to be the best, yet neither of them fight each other?
Lance is not a Dragon Master. He's just a Dragon-type trainer.

The only character in the anime ever to be called a Dragon Master is Drayden. Iris has already surpassed him and isn't one, so Lance means nothing for Iris's goal.

Cynthia and Iris have history from BW, and while Cynthia doesn't specialize in Dragon type Pokemon, she is shown to have an affinity for them.
 
Lance is not a Dragon Master. He's just a Dragon-type trainer.

The only character in the anime ever to be called a Dragon Master is Drayden. Iris has already surpassed him and isn't one, so Lance means nothing for Iris's goal.

Cynthia and Iris have history from BW, and while Cynthia doesn't specialize in Dragon type Pokemon, she is shown to have an affinity for them.

I mean, so does Leon by using 2 (Which is more than Cynthia in-game).
 
I normally think of Lance as more of a flying type user than a dragon type user. Like most of the time his game team is filled with flying types and even both pokemon we've seen him use in the anime so far have been part flying type.
 
That certainly begs the question of how are Types handed out and by who... :unsure:
Recent Pokedex entries imply that Pokemon have/produce different types of elemental energy inside their bodies, and that is the source of their "types".

The anime implies the same thing as of late, with Clemont explaining how Meteor Assault works (Sirfetch'd building up energy in its chest, then channeling the energy into the tip of its leek), or for the most recent example, Gengar being able to learn Will-O-Wisp due to touching Infernape while it was emitting Fire-type energy and absorbing some of it, or as Oak explained, Lucario learning Bullet Punch because the Steel-type energy inside its body flared up.

Regidrago is a perfect example of this; it's not a dragon, just a golem made out of crystallized Dragon-type energy. Not all dragons are Dragon type Pokemon, and not all Dragon type Pokemon are dragons.
 
Lance is not a Dragon Master. He's just a Dragon-type trainer.

The only character in the anime ever to be called a Dragon Master is Drayden. Iris has already surpassed him and isn't one, so Lance means nothing for Iris's goal.

Cynthia and Iris have history from BW, and while Cynthia doesn't specialize in Dragon type Pokemon, she is shown to have an affinity for them.
He has more Dragon types than Cynthia, is the cousin of Clair and is the champion of two regions. I think that classifies him as a Dragon Master.
 
He has more Dragon types than Cynthia, is the cousin of Clair and is the champion of two regions. I think that classifies him as a Dragon Master.
There's no narrative for Iris to battle Lance over Cynthia. It doesn't matter if he has more dragon Pokemon. Cynthia is more relevant to Iris.
 
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