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Mafia Baccano! Mafia - Endgame - 12/4/2017

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DAY 2 VOTE COUNT - MID
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Day 2 will end in 24 hours unless all players vote or HYPER-MAJORITY occurs.
With 6 players alive, 4 are needed for HYPER-MAJORITY.
 
Midorikawa said:
This puts Elementar one vote from hammer for no legit case.

Unvote: Elementar
Vote: Ereshgikal

This game is too small for this kind of vote to be a joke.
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Space said:
why didn't you just unvote him then? and why should Elementar start a conversation with you?

Unvote: Elementar

Vote: Ereshkigal
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Ereshkigal said:
Because I was trying to draw a vote off Elementar so Elementar wouldn't get lynched early. Elementar doesn't strike me as scum.

Unvote: Elementar

Goal accomplished.

Now, to even it up so I don't get lynched... I'm using RollDB for this. Negative is Max, positive is Midori.

It ended up Max.

So...

Vote: Max1996

Once I have a stronger reason to vote for someone, I'll change it to them.

Now, my question for @Midorikawa is this: Why are you trying to get me lynched?
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Ereshkigal said:
That's fair.
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Elementar said:
That's all you have to say?

VOTE: Ereshkigal
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So my reasoning for voting Eresh, Spaces, and Elementars. Also responses of Eresh.

Eresh had thought themself safe and they had no reason to claim. However at the last minute Elementar with no real reason made Eresh unsafe and no time to save himself.

VOTE: Elementar
 
Midorikawa said:
So my reasoning for voting Eresh, Spaces, and Elementars. Also responses of Eresh.

Eresh had thought themself safe and they had no reason to claim. However at the last minute Elementar with no real reason made Eresh unsafe and no time to save himself.

VOTE: Elementar
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It was probably at the last minute because I'm in a different timezone. I was only able to be active then. And they were going to be lynched anyway. I genuinely thought they were scum, so I voted against them. Your reasoning for my vote seems weak too. I made them feel 'unsafe' when they were safe? How are you safe when you're the primary lynch target? I don't understand what you are saying. The point of mafia is to pressure others to get info.
 
Elementar said:
It was probably at the last minute because I'm in a different timezone. I was only able to be active then. And they were going to be lynched anyway. I genuinely thought they were scum, so I voted against them. Your reasoning for my vote seems weak too. I made them feel 'unsafe' when they were safe? How are you safe when you're the primary lynch target? I don't understand what you are saying. The point of mafia is to pressure others to get info.
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They weren't going to be lynched because they tied the votes. They were safe to live another phase and you changed that at last minute.
 
I didn't want a No Lynch, and Eresh was the best option for me. No Lynch gets us nowhere. And especially if there wasn't a NK, we would've been clutching at straws for information.
 
Space said:
not that your other posts really added much, but this one stands out above the others to me. what did you think of Elementar at the time? were you hoping for a no-lynch?
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At the time elementar had not confirmed and was one vote away from hyperlynch. Which to me just seemed suspicious. I was not hoping for a no lynch I just saw someone take an opportunity at a person who hadn't been in the threat, and thought it was weird.
 
Elementar said:
I didn't want a No Lynch, and Eresh was the best option for me. No Lynch gets us nowhere. And especially if there wasn't a NK, we would've been clutching at straws for information.
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Then how about now? Is there anyone you think is at least mildly suspicious enough to lynch?

Midorikawa said:
However at the last minute Elementar with no real reason made Eresh unsafe and no time to save himself.
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That's true, I hadn't really thought about how he didn't give Ereshkigal much time. But at the same time, Ereshkigal hadn't really defend themself and only said it was fair that you called them scummy. I can kind of get why Elementar just voted then
 
Space said:
Then how about now? Is there anyone you think is at least mildly suspicious enough to lynch?



That's true, I hadn't really thought about how he didn't give Ereshkigal much time. But at the same time, Ereshkigal hadn't really defend themself and only said it was fair that you called them scummy. I can kind of get why Elementar just voted then
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Plenty of people ha plenty of time to respond to Eresh comment. Eresh said he understood my reasoning and tied the votes. Elementar voted last minute and gave him no time to respond to the vote. And time zones don't matter because bmg shows posts in ones own time zones so if you look at the tkmestamp on the update posts or pay attention to how long the hosts say is left in the phase, you can know the update time your time.
 
So, I've read over the thread a few times and these are my current thoughts:
Midorikawa: Neutral, what I've seen up till now is just an active player trying to get some reads, but this can also be scum trying to seem as a good town.
Elementar: Somewhat scummy, I somewhat get why you'd want a lynch but no lynch is better than a mislynch in my opinion.
Space: Neutral, I don't have enough information on the moment to get a good read although I get a good vibe from Space's activity. Mostly straight to the point and asking the right questions on the right moments.
jackatlasred: Neutral, makes good points about the 4th vote on Elementar but again, I don't have enough to go off right now.
Skullcrow: Neutral, has not done anything except for questioning others and pointing out that Elementar already had 4 votes. Again, not having much to go on right now.

I apparently had less to go off as I expected at first... I do want to note that Skull and jack have said not a whole lot, which could be scum trying to hide.
 
So we have 1 and a half hours and not much to go on I don't think elementar should be lynched, but I won't stop this lynch due to not wanting a no lynch. I will however join a no lynch if people are willing to join. Vote: no lynch
 
Night 2 start
  • Index
    • 1 @Max1996
    2 @Midorikawa
    3 @Elementar
    4 @Space
    6 @jackatlasred
    7 @Skullcrow

    DAY 1 VOTE COUNT - FINAL
    Elementar I (Midorikawa)
    No Lynch I (jackatlasred)

    No one was lynched.
    It is now Night 2. It will end in 24 hours unless night actions are locked in a way that lead to an inevitable outcome.
     
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    • Oh I guess that does stop lyches. Well guys I need to read the rules again
     
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