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Mafia Fruit Bowl Mafia 2: Endgame: Pasta La Vista, Baby! 22/6/17

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Elieson said:
What seems forced though; like Zexy almost sounds defeatist and Mido is just keeping it going.
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I meant to add a ? to this. Whoops!

Pika_pika42 said:
Hope you are fine now.
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I'm on some meds for bacterial pneumonia; explains why I've been coughing and short of breath for almost two weeks. Wait a sec. Welcome back from beyoooonnnd the graaaaaavvveee.

Going on numbers, with 10 alive, 6:4 right now isn't possible, so I'm thinkin 6:3:1 or at best 7:3, where the 1 isn't a killing role (otherwise we'd be in a modconfirmed pickle right now)

##Vote @Soulmaster

I have a gut on this. While I'm extremely unsure about this, I do not want an inactive wildcard sitting around in a *YLO scenario.

As far as an actual scumread goes; well I kind of feel like applying pressure to Elementar for not really following through with his hard-as-steel attempt at throwing mud towards me. Consider my vote on SoulMaster actually aimed at Elementar. In terms of logistics though, unless a vig shoots him, his slot is sucking up space that we don't need to deal with later.
 
Elieson said:
I meant to add a ? to this. Whoops!



I'm on some meds for bacterial pneumonia; explains why I've been coughing and short of breath for almost two weeks. Wait a sec. Welcome back from beyoooonnnd the graaaaaavvveee.

Going on numbers, with 10 alive, 6:4 right now isn't possible, so I'm thinkin 6:3:1 or at best 7:3, where the 1 isn't a killing role (otherwise we'd be in a modconfirmed pickle right now)

##Vote @Soulmaster

I have a gut on this. While I'm extremely unsure about this, I do not want an inactive wildcard sitting around in a *YLO scenario.

As far as an actual scumread goes; well I kind of feel like applying pressure to Elementar for not really following through with his hard-as-steel attempt at throwing mud towards me. Consider my vote on SoulMaster actually aimed at Elementar. In terms of logistics though, unless a vig shoots him, his slot is sucking up space that we don't need to deal with later.
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I'll sheep this.

VOTE: Soulmaster
NVOTE: Max
 
Wow...sheeping much, Mido? That's kind of scummy...
inb4 someone calls me a hypocrite for that, bringing up my alignment-independent meta.

Vote: Midorikawa
 
Max1996 said:
Wow...sheeping much, Mido? That's kind of scummy...
inb4 someone calls me a hypocrite for that, bringing up my alignment-independent meta.

Vote: Midorikawa
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.....You sheeped me the previous day phase. And you sheeped Mega on D1. You're being hypocritical in a single game. Phase ends tonight I believe so I'm making sure it's not a tie. And @Soulmaster has had time to respond so he should have by now.
 
Midorikawa said:
.....You sheeped me the previous day phase. And you sheeped Mega on D1. You're being hypocritical in a single game. Phase ends tonight I believe so I'm making sure it's not a tie. And @Soulmaster has had time to respond so he should have by now.
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This is making me curious as to one thing: When was the last time we played in the same Mafia game? And no, it's not ending tonight. Only 15.5 hours or so have passed now since the start.
 
Elementar said:
...Those posts from Zexy and Mido sound so forced...

"Oh, if they claimed, everything would be so much better!"

Is that how you're going to justify it? "It wasn't our fault they didn't claim miller..." Do claims really make someone that much more towny, especially a claim that makes them appear mafia-aligned?

And Zexy appears to be putting shade on others at whatever chance they can get. I don't like that at all.
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In what way are they forced? That's stuff that should always be said after a Miller flips.
And yes, a Miller claim makes someone THAT MUCH MORE towny.

I only put shade on people I don't trust, at this point the only one I'm pretty sure is town is Elie and I'm also leaning town on Piko. New_Pika, Max (and Mido for a while) you all I don't trust, I know not all of you can be scum but some HAVE TO be.
Elementar said:
Tone. And they sound exaggerated in an attempt to justify your reasoning and backtrack.
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I think I've brought it up again before. Don't try to tone read me, when town I don't care about how my tone comes off (I only care about that when scum). And it's not an exaggeration, it's my genuine thoughts for all Miller claims ever.
Midorikawa said:
I'll sheep this.

VOTE: Soulmaster
NVOTE: Max
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What's a NVOTE?

I'll apply some more pressure too.

VOTE: Soulmaster

Also don't particularly like Max, a while ago I also didn't like Mido but I've changed my mind now.
 
Maniacal Engineer said:
Day 3 Quarter Phase Votals:

Zexy: I (Elementar)
Max1996: I (Midorikawa)

Phase ends in just under 35 hours and 50 minutes.
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Midorikawa said:
Phase ends tonight I believe so I'm making sure it's not a tie.
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lol try harder
 
I know I said last night but it's late morning now.

Reading through everything a few people kept jumping out at me.

First: Pika. I don't particularly like the way you used your original spot as basis for just about everything. Yes I admit there is no way around it, it will always influence you some, but you were entirely too blatant about it for my tastes. However, that makes me think of you as a more towny person.

Mido: I know that Mido is a tricky person, and the Zexy/Mido interactions have been good, I do not think they have been forced but are definitely genuine. With this I am willing to think that both of them are Town.

Elie: I guess thanks for the vote? Anywho I'm had said that I trust Elie as town, but now I'm not entirely so sure. Still town leaning but not much.

Elementar: His posts seem very new person, but I know that he isn't. I really hate bringing even a bit of meta into this but nothing in the posts seems to be concrete, and he even takes back a couple of his points with little provocation, least that's how I read it.

Max: I really have no idea about you. I would like you to answer Piko's questions from post 237.

Piko: Most of you posts, nearly as few as me are just reactions, even admitted to by yourself. You do pose a couple decent questions. Your post about the Zexy/Elie action is interesting, has that been explained or talked about more? I couldn't find it but it's possible I managed to miss it, that happens every now and then.

Nothing really on anyone else at the moment. I know I missed a couple people but their posts either didn't stick out to me or they haven't really made many.

I am going to Vote: Elementar at this time though.
 
Elieson said:
I meant to add a ? to this. Whoops!

I'm on some meds for bacterial pneumonia; explains why I've been coughing and short of breath for almost two weeks. Wait a sec. Welcome back from beyoooonnnd the graaaaaavvveee.

Going on numbers, with 10 alive, 6:4 right now isn't possible, so I'm thinkin 6:3:1 or at best 7:3, where the 1 isn't a killing role (otherwise we'd be in a modconfirmed pickle right now)

##Vote @Soulmaster

I have a gut on this. While I'm extremely unsure about this, I do not want an inactive wildcard sitting around in a *YLO scenario.

As far as an actual scumread goes; well I kind of feel like applying pressure to Elementar for not really following through with his hard-as-steel attempt at throwing mud towards me. Consider my vote on SoulMaster actually aimed at Elementar. In terms of logistics though, unless a vig shoots him, his slot is sucking up space that we don't need to deal with later.
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I hope you get better soon. :)

They feel forced because of tone, and to me, they don't feel concrete or honest. They sound fake.
And following through with my mud-throwing at you? I think I have said many times that Zexy is scummier and I applied just as much pressure onto them as you. So why do you expect to follow up through you? You're throwing shade onto me now in a worse way.

Zexy, you say that out of your 4 or so scumreads, some "HAVE TO BE SCUM." Should I expect that in this game, all of the power players are ALL town aligned and none of them have been killed by Day 3? That and they've been involved in mislynches as well? I can say just as easily that one of you HAS to be scum.
 
UNVOTE: Soulmaster
VOTE: Elementar

At least Soul gave us the amount of content he could under pressure, what I'm used to seeing from him (his town meta). While Elementar's pushing bad cases and arguments all game.
Elementar said:
Zexy, you say that out of your 4 or so scumreads, some "HAVE TO BE SCUM." Should I expect that in this game, all of the power players are ALL town aligned and none of them have been killed by Day 3? That and they've been involved in mislynches as well? I can say just as easily that one of you HAS to be scum.
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But your reasons are "you are all power players and still alive so you have to be scum" while mine are "all these people are scummy, at least a few should be scum" which is better because I'm calling out people for being scummy, not being power players.
Midorikawa said:
...........Don't make me want to lynch you. If we agree a bunch I'm lynching to prevent Artemis 2.0
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I was the one pulling the strings that game, trying to pick the lynches you would agree with and push them first then agreeing with you.
Here I don't try that hard to agree with you and we even had some meta-fights earlier, and I'm definitely not trying to pull strings, if everything I'm confused because there are a few people that all look scummy and little ways for me to decide among them.
 
Zexy said:
UNVOTE: Soulmaster
VOTE: Elementar

At least Soul gave us the amount of content he could under pressure, what I'm used to seeing from him (his town meta). While Elementar's pushing bad cases and arguments all game.

But your reasons are "you are all power players and still alive so you have to be scum" while mine are "all these people are scummy, at least a few should be scum" which is better because I'm calling out people for being scummy, not being power players.
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Pushing bad cases... All game... Bad arguments...
1) The only case I've pushed is you, so this is OMGUS.
2) I was defending MegaPod12, who turned out to be town (which means I was more right than Mido). Mido pushed a bad case on MP, but you don't point them out? My arguments were trying to save someone who turned out to be town. How is that bad if I'm right?
3) You all seem scummy to me, so I can say the same thing.

Midorikawa said:
I agree. Basically everyone but me you and Elie looks like scum to me right now.
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This is what I'm talking about with tone. This is so buddying it's not funny. And so far in this game, you've been wrong, so I presume you are wrong this time as well. What about everyone has been scummy? All three of you put shade on MP early, while Zexy backtracked scummily off, while you pursued and created a mislynch. Yet you insist that you're super towny as well as the other two?
 
Maniacal Engineer said:
Day 3 Half phase Votals:

Zexy: I (Elementar)
Soulmaster: I (Elieson)
Midorikawa: I (Max1996)
Elementar: II (Soulmaster, Zexy)

Apologies for the nearly hour delay. I was in the middle of something and lost track of time.
Phase ends in ~23 hours and 13 minutes.
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I think you made a mistake. I'm voting soulmaster
 
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