Mafia Elementar's Mafia Universe ~ Endgame (Written in Blue)

[DarthWolf]

That's if he's being truthful about being voteless.

It appears so, as his vote didn't count in the votals.

@FinalArcadia can you test Zexy's ascetic claim and see if he's being truthful or is that not how your ability works?

I already tested that N1, unless I got roleblocked he is speaking the truth about that.

 

[Midorikawa]

It appears so, as his vote didn't count in the votals.

I already tested that N1, unless I got roleblocked he is speaking the truth about that.

And I already stated what could be wrong with that. Could be his ability shows him voteless.

@Zexy be useful and fun out if your ascetic during the day phase too.

If not then I say FA uses her ability next day phase to see if he's lying scum or not.

Just a reminder I have a vig shot. I believe darth, zachie, or Alex make good targets currently. Also just to let you know ahead of time the night I use t don't bother trying tracker or anything because it's a ninja vig shot.

 

[HumanDawn]

busy, but i will keep it short:

i'm disappointed that it was a town lynch, i didn't like slife's push on zachie at all but i believe there to be scum in the wagon

i see the point in FA, i don't ever remember her following what i do so much, and yeah something is a bit off, though i disagree about her being secretive of her role, i believe she'd be worth looking into

rainbow cloud barely posted too, could just be busy, or scum trying to blend in

feenie makes a good point about alex kaz, just being more of a follower than somebody who makes their own cases

i don't get the hint from zexy, there's a mention of "Final Dawn" which makes me think of FA and me, but i don't get what i means

 

[Elementar]

Spoiler

@Zexy
@FinalArcadia
@Pika_pika42
@Feenie
@jdthebud
@Sword Master
@DarthWolf
@Slife
@Lone_Garurumon
@swarla
@Zachie
@Kyriaki
@Alex Kaz
@Midorikawa
@Nightwing101
@Rainbow Cloud
@HumanDawn
@SoaringDylan

Sorry about the delayed announcement, but anyone who didn't vote during the last day phase are silenced for the remainder of the night.

 

[Midorikawa]

Spoiler

@Zexy
@FinalArcadia
@Pika_pika42
@Feenie
@jdthebud
@Sword Master
@DarthWolf
@Slife
@Lone_Garurumon
@swarla
@Zachie
@Kyriaki
@Alex Kaz
@Midorikawa
@Nightwing101
@Rainbow Cloud
@HumanDawn
@SoaringDylan

Sorry about the delayed announcement, but anyone who didn't vote during the last day phase are silenced for the remainder of the night.

Can we get a list of those who are silenced?

 

[Elementar]

@jdthebud
@Sword Master
@DarthWolf
@swarla
@Zachie
@Nightwing101
@Zexy

You're all now silenced.

 

[Midorikawa]

@jdthebud
@Sword Master
@DarthWolf
@swarla
@Zachie
@Nightwing101
@Zexy

You're all now silenced.

Wait Zexy did vote.

 

[Elementar]

Wait Zexy did vote.

Zexy unvoted DarthWolf

 

[Feenie]

If not then I say FA uses her ability next day phase to see if he's lying scum or not.

I agree with this, I think FA should just use her ability to see if he's lying about it or not. It's more than a 1x right?

anyone who didn't vote during the last day phase are silenced for the remainder of the night.

This must be an ability, but hmmm I wonder who would have a reason to do this? It has to be a strategic time to use it, purposefully picking now to silence those that didn't vote. So who were they aiming to silence and for what purpose? I seriously don't know, just wanted to see if anyone else had any thoughts. Or maybe it means nothing.

 

[Midorikawa]

I agree with this, I think FA should just use her ability to see if he's lying about it or not. It's more than a 1x right?


This must be an ability, but hmmm I wonder who would have a reason to do this? It has to be a strategic time to use it, purposefully picking now to silence those that didn't vote. So who were they aiming to silence and for what purpose? I seriously don't know, just wanted to see if anyone else had any thoughts. Or maybe it means nothing.

It at least seems to be mafia or indep because it affects town the most considering majority is town.

 

[Elementar]

Day 3 ~ Flashbacks

Spoiler

@Zexy
@FinalArcadia
@Pika_pika42
@Feenie
@jdthebud
@Sword Master
@DarthWolf
@Slife
@Lone_Garurumon
@swarla
@Zachie
@Kyriaki
@Alex Kaz
@Midorikawa
@Nightwing101
@Rainbow Cloud
@HumanDawn
@SoaringDylan

“Hey Elementar.”

“Hey swarla. What’s up?”

“Not much. You?”

In fact, Elementar was up to something. He had tested himself with his recently created device. He had since dubbed it “The Determining Factor,” and it confirmed some of his worst fears. Thankfully, he had plans to stop it.

“I just finished designing that sword I was talking about. All I need to do now is finish its power source.”

“It’s using the power of the elements yeah?”

“Yeah. And other things…” It was clear that something was disturbing him, but knew he wanted to keep it private after he changed the subject instantly. “So… How’s your first mafia game going?”

Weeks passed and time battled on. Elementar withdrew into a lab for a little bit, experimenting on different theories and techniques that could fix his ‘problem.’ His room’s basement had turned into a large sanctuary of mafia game realms and little projects that made him smile. “The Determining Factor” was sitting at the room’s end, and during this particular day, Elementar couldn’t help staring at it despondently. He grabbed his laptop, opened the webcam at its highest border and clicked record. “TDF test number 7. Previous result: 22%. Expected result… 34%...” After sighing dejectedly, he spun around on his office chair and approached The Determining Factor. The machine had the shape of a human, just opened at the front like an uninhabited suit. He stepped inside and let it close, hissing viciously as it spat out pressurised air. “Start test.” The machine groaned and clicked. It whirred to life and started releasing a blue gas. Since the first test, Elementar had found a way to make the gas less painful whilst still providing the same results. Now, it only felt like a small prick to each skin cell exposed to it. “Ah!” After 30 seconds of the gas surrounding his body, the machine sucked it back into itself and shot him out. Elementar stumbled forwards and used his hand to remain upright.

“Analysing…” The machine’s voice sounded like all artificial intelligence mashed together in a stupid collection. “Results received. Darkness takeover, 45%. Approximately 20% before internal override. Expected time to reach this percentage, 2 weeks.”

Great. Periodic Table Mafia’s about to start… “TDF, is the cave ready to hold the sword and the stone?”

“Yes.”

“Good. We’ll need it soon…

No one died.

It is now Day 3. The phase will last for 48 hours.

 

[Zexy]

That's what you call everything you say? If you're cryptic then I'm a cat. This is so contradictory to so many posts.

That is what the name of the role is called.

This post completely reeks.

The whole unvoting Darth thing is strange, considering Zexy is voteless. And what really is strange is his reason for the unvote. The second part is hypocritical since he pushed for Kyriaki D1.

Strange it is not. Deal I struck with Darth was putting vote on him so that the votelessness of mine is confirmed. That happened, no need for vote to stay.
For all we did know, vote or no vote, even of zero value, could have affected the state of the game. It would be unfair to DarthWolf that my vote stays on him for no reason other than checking votelessness in case something would come off it. HYPER-MAJORITY takes effect even under votelessness, effects akin to Killers-Millers too. As for the silence...

I, the Great Oracle, solemnly swear that I had no information about vote-related silence. Interesting coincidence.


As for the lynch of Kyriaki, difference between them and me is their paricipation in wagon twice, not once like me.

I'm so glad Midori brought up the Zexy unvoting DarthWolf thing because I was thinking it was highly suspicious but I didn't want to bring it up because I've been constantly voicing my suspicions of Zexy. Why bother unvoting if you're voteless--it makes no sense.

@FinalArcadia can you test Zexy's ascetic claim and see if he's being truthful or is that not how your ability works?

Also, I'm not sure what I'm driving at here but Alex Kaz comes in again and adds a vote (on a wagon) towards the end. This is becoming a bit of a trend in behavior, and while I was giving it a pass the first time due to Zexy seemingly forcing the lynch, this time that wasn't the case.

Suspicious it not, only logical it was. Its purpose was fulfilled, no need for it to remain.

@Zexy be useful and fun out if your ascetic during the day phase too.

It does apply.

i don't get the hint from zexy, there's a mention of "Final Dawn" which makes me think of FA and me, but i don't get what i means

It is my belief that said part is not about specific players who happen to have similar naming.

To show votelessness again and make those who don't trust me do so, this time I vote my own self and won't remove it unless instructed.

VOTE: Zexy

 

[Zachie]

This is some fab flavour text! Did you manage to figure out any more of your riddle, Zexy?

I have some reads now that we've transitioned from that last phase, a lot of things to be taken from it.

Sword Master: Comes in after being inactive & immediately asks for things instead of looking at them himself. Lazy, but not convinced they're scum bc the scum buddies would just catch him up. Could be a ploy, but I doubt it.

Kaz: Hesitant to vote, but very forceful with his actions. Attacks SM for asking a question? To be fair, those are some pretty scummy actions in my opinion. Could be nothing, not saying they're definitely scum but just something to keep an eye on.

LG: Seems very neutral with things. Never quick to take a side, could be an independent and just waiting for the perfect time to pick a side. Not sure, could be harmless & I could be overthinking it.

Zexy: Is Zexy. This could be an act and they're trying to fool us. Voteless would be a very strange condition for a mafia member, but at the same time it would make the mafia very powerful since they wouldn't be suspected. Once again, not saying anything for sure, just another thing to keep an eye on.

Mido: Acting very very very odd. He's pushing very hard on Zexy, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but they're also very quick to switch sides on how they feel, and then when we "don't listen to them" they make out like they're someone super important that we should have listened too. It reeks.

jd: We've all heard enough about them. Inactive, looks to be trying to fly under the radar, definitely someone to keep an eye on.

Feenie: I'm a bit confused here. Zexy was proved to be voteless and yet they're saying "If it's true", so they're either not paying proper attention to the game or they're trying any angle they can to push a vote on Zexy. Definitely suspicious, and definitely worth a look.

swarla: Inactive. Not that suspicious since a kill happened while they were gone, but they could be scum without a kill ability. Not worth looking at for now, but should be noted. They'll be subbed out soon if they're truly inactive, if not they could be active elsewhere.

HD: Extreme neutral. Says what they think & not much else. Nothing seems too suspicious just yet, definitely worth keeping an eye on though. There's much better targets for the time being.

RC: Very defensive of Darth, so if Darth ends up flipping scum it's worth looking into but for now there's no proof of either. Darth's behaviour has been a bit off, but it's more circumstantial then it is anything else.

 

[Feenie]

Seems very neutral with things. Never quick to take a side,

I don't see where this assumption is coming from because Lone seemed to pick a side last phase as he was willing to not not trust Zexy if given a reason. All in all I don't recall seeing much from him, but I can't say he doesn't 'pick a side'.

Is Zexy. This could be an act and they're trying to fool us. Voteless would be a very strange condition for a mafia member, but at the same time it would make the mafia very powerful since they wouldn't be suspected. Once again, not saying anything for sure, just another thing to keep an eye on.

Isn't this game bastard? I actually don't really know what the means, but doesn't that make it so there's some... strange roles in place?

Also Midori is an independent survivor. She doesn't necessarily need to be on our side, but it's definitely in her best interest at the moment to be. She's definitely been helpful, especially considering the game's activity.

I'm a bit confused here. Zexy was proved to be voteless and yet they're saying "If it's true", so they're either not paying proper attention to the game or they're trying any angle they can to push a vote on Zexy. Definitely suspicious, and definitely worth a look.

You just said mafia could be voteless and said to keep an eye on Zexy. Why are you condemning me for something you yourself are doing?

What I'm getting at is your entire reads list is almost entirely comprised of 'keep an eye on' with nothing too significant... it's confusing, and seems like you aren't really willing to lend your true opinion and are instead keeping it 'safe'. Also you didn't mention FA?

 

[Zexy]

This is some fab flavour text! Did you manage to figure out any more of your riddle, Zexy?

The amount of mafia might be 3 or 4, doubt 5. D.A.R.C.ness is interesting, initials of potential players do not match the C, though.
It should also be obvious to everyone that one may not fake text like that unless they are of supreme roleplay/flavor skill. Only The False Prophet of XY&Z has achieved so, most others cannot.

Kaz: Hesitant to vote, but very forceful with his actions. Attacks SM for asking a question? To be fair, those are some pretty scummy actions in my opinion. Could be nothing, not saying they're definitely scum but just something to keep an eye on.

Hesitant to vote but always last voter. Suspicious.

Mido: Acting very very very odd. He's pushing very hard on Zexy, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but they're also very quick to switch sides on how they feel, and then when we "don't listen to them" they make out like they're someone super important that we should have listened too. It reeks.

A fair assessment. Would like to see defense.

Feenie: I'm a bit confused here. Zexy was proved to be voteless and yet they're saying "If it's true", so they're either not paying proper attention to the game or they're trying any angle they can to push a vote on Zexy. Definitely suspicious, and definitely worth a look.

Agreed.

HD: Extreme neutral. Says what they think & not much else. Nothing seems too suspicious just yet, definitely worth keeping an eye on though. There's much better targets for the time being.

Also agreed.

RC: Very defensive of Darth, so if Darth ends up flipping scum it's worth looking into but for now there's no proof of either. Darth's behaviour has been a bit off, but it's more circumstantial then it is anything else.

DarthWolf, Alex Kaz, Rainbow Cloud and C? D.A.R.C.ness

 

[Zachie]

You just said mafia could be voteless and said to keep an eye on Zexy. Why are you condemning me for something you yourself are doing?

I just find it odd that Zexy was proven voteless & you ignored that.

Also you didn't mention FA?

Sorry, it's late & I have a terrible memory.

 

[FinalArcadia]

@FinalArcadia can you test Zexy's ascetic claim and see if he's being truthful or is that not how your ability works?

I have stronger reason to see Zexy as town after having read this:

In the mountains of ice and snow, where white blankets are cold pillows that will put you eternally to sleep, there is a dimly lit cave. Man-made, this cave holds the secrets of one, or two. It's sheltered from the harsh reality of its location, where little would hope to find it. But it's creator used it to save himself, and others, whilst putting them all in danger. The creator is dangerous, as one or two, but when two, can limit the other. Yin and yang, swirling around like dogs chasing their tails. Humans are dark creatures, but they often find light truth in their final moments. When one individual became two, it was at the first dawn. Where both in one body were split into light and dark... Two seperate entities of the one mind...
Now, with the D.A.R.C.ness taking over, those who were split will lead their factions into war, and only those smart enough will lead out of it. Three followers of of the dark lit path will secretly manipulate their hidden boss' opponents. And at the war's end, there will be two stones and a sword. The stones are the key to the sword, which is the key to the one who has two entities. Two entities, two stones... Both were split in equal power and equal sides. Sides of light and darkness... The war ends at the Final Dawn...

There are some things here that seem a little too coincidental for Zexy to be throwing into this if he's making it up. I'm starting to think that Human's role is probably similar in its "theme" to mine because the "Final Dawn" I feel is probably referring to us our roles. I'm like 90% certain that I at least am being referred to in this passage based on one thing I'll show below in a Lone_Garurumon quote. However, given my role, I'm not sure how it makes sense with the whole "when one individual became two" and how it could directly connect to another role/character. And I can't tell from this mystery if - assuming I'm deciphering the meaning here somewhat correctly - it means the two split from one are opposite alignments, or complementary, since yin and yang could kinda be interpreted either way I think.

I do find the D.A.R.C.ness bit strange since it seems to fit certain player names a little too neatly like it's a trap, but the rest seems too legit imo.

The sword and stones are probably the ones Elementar grabbed in the OP-FT, but is that just FT or actually some kind of mechanic? Does anyone have a sword or stone item?

The lore behind my ability is explicitly based on a sword and stone.

But anyway, the only thing that I find suspicious about Zexy's actual claim is the fact that we've seen two other Pokemon roles flip (one explicitly from XY&Z, the other from both that and Smash Bros). But voteless scum would be pretty ridiculous, so I still think he's gotta be town.

Also, to respond to a few people who said my behavior seems strange and following Human more than usual, I've agreed with a lot of his cases/stances this game and because of that voted the same people a few times (however, we disagreed about Darth). Speaking of Darth though...

VOTE: DarthWolf

I was wrong about Slife and I wonder if I should have kept my vote here. He doesn't seem his townself and has been very passive. It feels like the only thing he's really done this game is respond to people suspecting him rather than looking for scum himself. And if he is scum, then this might give us a lot to work with when it comes to potential buddies and maybe even if Zexy's D.A.R.Cness theory has some merit to it.

 

[Sword Master]

Sword Master: Comes in after being inactive & immediately asks for things instead of looking at them himself. Lazy, but not convinced they're scum bc the scum buddies would just catch him up. Could be a ploy, but I doubt it.

Or maybe I couldn't look at it myself, because I was busy so that's why I asked.

Anyway, I don't like this list, it feels as if he's trying to look like he's doing something with this reads lists, but there's nothing of note here no scrum reads. I don't like it.

 

[jdthebud]

First, I'm glad no one died, that's always good to see.

Got a couple things to talk about here:

Mido: Acting very very very odd. He's pushing very hard on Zexy, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but they're also very quick to switch sides on how they feel, and then when we "don't listen to them" they make out like they're someone super important that we should have listened too. It reeks.

So, do you believe her claim of independent survivor or not?

jd: We've all heard enough about them. Inactive, looks to be trying to fly under the radar, definitely someone to keep an eye on.

I don't understand the first part of this, and what makes you think I'm trying to fly under the radar rather than just being inactive?

RC: Very defensive of Darth, so if Darth ends up flipping scum it's worth looking into but for now there's no proof of either. Darth's behaviour has been a bit off, but it's more circumstantial then it is anything else.

What about Darth's behavior is "circumstantial"? And why isn't it enough for you to vote for him?

Or maybe I couldn't look at it myself, because I was busy so that's why I asked.

Anyway, I don't like this list, it feels as if he's trying to look like he's doing something with this reads lists, but there's nothing of note here no scrum reads. I don't like it.

I agree that he seems hesitant to have scum reads, which is always something to look out for. @Zachie what's your gut scum reads right now?

 

[Zexy]

But anyway, the only thing that I find suspicious about Zexy's actual claim is the fact that we've seen two other Pokemon roles flip (one explicitly from XY&Z, the other from both that and Smash Bros).

Related to XY&Z Mafia it is, but to Pokemon franchise it isn't really. Additionally, nothing wrong with plethora of Pokemon roles in this game.

@Midorikawa Survivor you claimed you are, reasoning you gave about keeping activity up is understood. But what is your reason for actually showing care about my alignment? If you are telling the truth, contributing without actually contributing would be more fit for you.