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Generation IV Remake Speculation

Will there be remakes in Gen VIII?

  • Yes, there will be a remake of Diamond/Pearl.

    Votes: 239 90.9%

  • Yes, there will be a "Let's Go!" remake of Crystal.

    Votes: 49 18.6%

  • Yes, there will be remakes of older spinoff titles (XD/Colosseum/Snap, etc).

    Votes: 21 8.0%

  • No

    Votes: 12 4.6%
  • Total voters
    263
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SinnohEevee said:
I still have doubts about Sinnoh remakes because of Dynamax. It can't be done in a Gym, and GF seems to be over Megas. Also, we are getting the Sinnoh Legendaries in Crown Tundra.
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People keep saying that GameFreak is done with Megas, as if Megas weren't featured in the very last game (LGPE).

I don't know if they would do Megas for a Sinnoh remake, but I don't think it would be out of left field at all.

As for the Regi thing, I was surprised that didn't happen in Crown Tundra. A Galarian Regigigas that required either just the two new ones or all five would have made a lot of sense. I suppose you could have a Regigigas form like that in Sinnoh, but it would make more sense in a new region.

I do feel like only the Pixie Plate (with no other plates) and no Sinnoh fossils is decent evidence for a DP remake, but the legendaries already being available is even stronger evidence against it. And they only ever do one remake per console and maybe Let's Go was it. I have no idea what they'll do, which is kind of nice.
 
Bolt Strike said:
They could add a new form of Regigigas. Isn't it about time Regigigas wasn't hampered by Slow Start?
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They could, but I don’t think they will. Regigigas is throttled because this is one of those rules they are weirdly consistent about - nothing that isn’t banned from Battle Spot/Battle Stadium gets over 600 BST without a drawback. Megas had to sacrifice their held item slot, Wishiwashi loses its form at 1/4th HP, and Slaking is stuck with Truant. Regigigas seems designed to encourage an approach wherein you use another Pokémon (like Weezing with Neutralizing Gas) to bring out its potential.

Besides, even if they were going to give it a new form, I don’t see why they wouldn’t go ahead and do that in CT, since it is actively introducing new Regi lore for the first time since 2006 and has a good old “collect all the Regis” quest that will presumably lead to an encounter with Regigigas.

Jimothy said:
I do feel like only the Pixie Plate (with no other plates)
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This probably has more to do with the Pixie Plate being the only Fairy-type boosting held item than it does any potential Sinnoh remakes. Why they can’t just create a new held item that isn’t related to Arceus, I don’t know, but they’ve had three generations to do it and they never have.

(Also, this feels like one of those situations where people would find a way to read it as a “hint” no matter what. Leave only the Pixie Plate in, and it’s like “hmmm, where are the other plates GF??” Put all of them in without Arceus, and it’s “They must be planning something involving Arceus!”)

Jimothy said:
And they only ever do one remake per console and maybe Let's Go was it.
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They could always break that rule, especially since LGPE was not very traditional, but yeah, this is sort of where I’m leaning. “Gen 8” will effectively consist of LGPE, SwSh, and IOA/CT, fandom pedantry be damned. Although, if Gen 9 starts on the Switch, I could see Switch-based DP remakes happening there.
 
Esserise said:
But... you will already be able to get Regigigas in the DLC itself. Why would someone bother sending all five Regis (more than has ever been required for that sort of thing) over to DP remakes just to get a second Regigigas?
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But can the Regigigas of Crown Tundra gigantamax? Because a special Regigigas in a DPP remake (that would be unlocked by transferring the Regis into the game and bringing them to a special area) certainly would! And I’m only half-joking. Lol
 
Game Freak just isn't going to end Gen 8 with just one pair of games in total and they need something new next year since DLC for Sw/Sh is basically done completely. Plus, I don't see the collection feature any DS or 3DS games because of how they were inherently coded to work on a system with two screens, which they would need to make heavy edits in the game's source code to cram everything into one screen. At this point, it's just better and easier to make a remake of a DS Pokemon game rather than heavily edit the code. And to be honest, anything featuring the Kanto region again would cannibalize the sales of Let's Go really badly.
 
geebraprint said:
But can the Regigigas of Crown Tundra gigantamax? Because a special Regigigas in a DPP remake (that would be unlocked by transferring the Regis into the game and bringing them to a special area) certainly would! And I’m only half-joking. Lol
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Again, that’s something I think would just make a lot more sense to include in the Crown Tundra.
 
Yes, I am sure they won't remake the third best-selling core series games (the most popular ones outside of Gen 1 and 2) because one of the legendary Pokemon is in CT DLC.
 
I will say one thing: I don't understand why people use the regis for evidence. I'm a full force Sinnoh Remakes supporter but even I think that's grasping at straws.
 
To be honest, I mainly use fossil Pokemon as evidence for a Sinnoh remake. At this point, legendary Pokemon shouldn't be used as evidence for or against remakes since they are starting to be included whenever the newest region is concluded, in this case, Galar. Mewtwo and the legendary birds were all catchable in US/UM, despite the fact that Let's Go, a remake coming after also had them.
 
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Dotamin said:
Yes, I am sure they won't remake the third best-selling core series games (the most popular ones outside of Gen 1 and 2) because one of the legendary Pokemon is in CT DLC.
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No one ever said it was because of just one, mate! The Crown Tundra is reintroducing the full suite of Sinnoh Legendaries, and doing so before DP remakes came along would be a level of preempting that is totally unheard of.

Aside from that, your causality is off. From Game Freak's point-of-view, the decision of whether or not to remake Sinnoh in Gen 8 has most likely already been made, and would have been made a while ago. Looking at the Legendaries available in CT for a sign is more of an archaeological process - an attempt to piece together the sequence of Game Freak's project planning and coordination. It's not a matter of, "Well gee guys, we already put Regigigas in CT so I guess there'd be no sense in remaking DP now!", but rather, "How much time can we allocate toward developing Gen 8 games, and when should important Pokémon like Legendaries be distributed? If we put all of Sinnoh's Legendaries into CT, is there as much of an impetus to remake Sinnoh now? Does that align with the other projects we're working on?"

Game Freak spent the period from 2016-2019 developing SwSh and LGPE in parallel, and we know that after a new generational pair like Ruby & Sapphire or Sword & Shield is released is typically when conceptual work on the next generational pair (in this case, Gen 9) begins. While development on that game is underway, the less-experienced developers who aren't yet needed for the next generational project spend their time working on an adjunct release to the current generaion (B2W2, ORAS, USUM). In regards to Gen 8, this would be the Expansion Pass. So Team A are working on Gen 9 for a release that will most likely aim for a release around 2022 or 2023, at least based on the usual turnover rate for generations (that could certainly change, of course - but that has pretty consistently been the shape of their production cycle throughout the entire lifespan of the series). In the meantime, Team B have been working on the Expansion Pass for SwSh as Gen 8's secondary release. Now that The Crown Tundra is just about ready to drop, it shouldn't be too long before Team B are called to begin contributing to the Gen 9 games, if they're to be released in 2022. It would be basically impossible to develop full-fledged Sinnoh remakes in such a small window. If Gen 9 are instead going to aim for 2023 (pushing Gen 8's lifespan to 4 years rather than 3, which has happened twice before, but is less common than a generational lifespan of 3 years), then Sinnoh remakes become a little more feasible, developmentally speaking. They could have begun conceptual development this year, with the bulk of the programming work to be done over the next year to score a late 2021 release, with all hands getting on-deck to help with Gen 9 after that.

Personally though, I just think it feels more likely that the Expansion Pass is Team B's focal project before transitioning to Gen 9 development, rather than being a sort of C-project squished in between SwSh, DP remakes, and Gen 9. Compounding this is what they've said about Dexit being the new direction for the series (ending this generation without every Pokémon being available would verify that, whereas if the plan is to make every Pokémon available in Gen 8, it begs the question of why they wouldn't have just said that from the beginning to avoid the entire backlash; furthermore, it kinda makes sense that if they aren't going to make all Pokémon available in Gen 8 through another release, that they would see it important to make sure that they at least still manage to squeeze all of the Legendary Pokémon in there, given the emphasis they've put on doing so in the past few generations - and if there aren't going to be DP remakes, then there's no redundancy or preemption to be concerned about) as well as Dynamax being this generation's metagame centralizer and being so thoroughly drilled in as a unique part of the culture of Galar. (Again, not that it couldn't be shoehorned into Sinnoh, but if they were going to do that, would they have put this much emphasis on it being a Galar-only thing? That should at least induce some skepticism.)

And lastly, there's a difference between saying "they won't remake these games" and "they won't remake these games this gen."

also this is neither here nor there, but SwSh have unseated DP as the third-best-selling core games
 
You know they could just bullshit us again and not let us transfer pokemon between SwSh and remakes. I wouldn't put it past them.
 
Poke Dragon said:
Game Freak just isn't going to end Gen 8 with just one pair of games in total and they need something new next year since DLC for Sw/Sh is basically done completely. Plus, I don't see the collection feature any DS or 3DS games because of how they were inherently coded to work on a system with two screens, which they would need to make heavy edits in the game's source code to cram everything into one screen. At this point, it's just better and easier to make a remake of a DS Pokemon game rather than heavily edit the code. And to be honest, anything featuring the Kanto region again would cannibalize the sales of Let's Go really badly.
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Maybe LG Johto.
 
Jimothy said:
People keep saying that GameFreak is done with Megas, as if Megas weren't featured in the very last game (LGPE).

I don't know if they would do Megas for a Sinnoh remake, but I don't think it would be out of left field at all.

As for the Regi thing, I was surprised that didn't happen in Crown Tundra. A Galarian Regigigas that required either just the two new ones or all five would have made a lot of sense. I suppose you could have a Regigigas form like that in Sinnoh, but it would make more sense in a new region.

I do feel like only the Pixie Plate (with no other plates) and no Sinnoh fossils is decent evidence for a DP remake, but the legendaries already being available is even stronger evidence against it. And they only ever do one remake per console and maybe Let's Go was it. I have no idea what they'll do, which is kind of nice.
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But they didn't create new ones. Megas in Sinnoh would require new ones for the starters for example.
 
We don't necessarily need Mega Starters but new Megas would be pretty great.

Maybe Flygon can finally get a Mega. Poor Flygon, always the bridesmaid and never the bride.
 
BackSet said:
We don't necessarily need Mega Starters but new Megas would be pretty great.

Maybe Flygon can finally get a Mega. Poor Flygon, always the bridesmaid and never the bride.
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We do need Megas starters so they don't get shafted, unless they give them their own thing.
 
Is there really anything wrong with starters just being normal? The Kalos starters didn't have Megas despite being introduced in the same gen as Megas (and not one word about Ash Greninja. That was retroactive.)
 
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