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Gen I's dex is not much better either.I remember when I was little, before I knew anything about Black and White, I thought they'd keep pushing back Arceus' National PokeDex number because it was too important to not be the last. Also, the national ordering of Gen 2 Pokémon is a mess.
Regions of 'Japan' (the first 4 gens) have never had regional forms.
Arceus is an overrated Pokémon. Nobody's National Dex number will change. They never changed the numbers of the past legendaries and mythicals, and they even separated evolution families in different regions.I remember when I was little, before I knew anything about Black and White, I thought they'd keep pushing back Arceus' National PokeDex number because it was too important to not be the last. Also, the national ordering of Gen 2 Pokémon is a mess.
While you're certainly free to feel that way, it's nonetheless clear that Game Freak aren't averse to the idea of putting newer extensions of old Pokémon into remakes. FRLG was puritanical about it, but HGSS let some of the Gen 4 evolutions in, ORAS let them all in and introduced new Mega Evolutions as well as Primal Reversion especially for the box mascots, while LGPE (not a typical remake, but still) brought in the existing Mega Evolutions and Alola Forms, and an entirely new species. The deed is more-or-less done. Since regional variants are a popular feature that also give the games something new to market in lieu of wholly new species, I'd think there'd be more incentive for them to do it than to not, and most people will either just not even bother to question the continuity of it, or chalk it up to the multiverse.
Doesn't necessarily make it a realistic option. Form changes are one thing, but entire subspecies?Well, that’s why it’s called retroactive continuity.
The concept didn’t exist then, but it does now, so upon reexamination, they can apply it. Groudon and Kyogre didn’t have Primal Reversion forms... until they did. They’d never changed a Pokémon’s entire type... until they did. They’d never created regional forms specific to an old region...
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Doesn't necessarily make it a realistic option. Form changes are one thing, but entire subspecies?
They might keep most of the new designs for the generation to come (probably 2022, knowing GF).
Sinnohan forms are definitely plausible. I said this earlier, but I think the latter 4 gens would be most likely to receive Regional Variants in Sinnoh.
Sinnoh was also all about evolutions and we just got the first cross-generation evolutions in quite a long time (excluding Sylveon). They promoted them as a brand new mechanic called Regional Evolutions, and yet we only got a small handful of them. I could easily see Sinnoh expanding on them. The latter four gens have never even gotten any cross-generational evolutions aside from Runerigus.
I'd rather not have new Sinnohan evolutions at the end of the Galar Dex. Diamond and Pearl already introduced enough new evolutions like Lickilicky, Magnezone, Electivire, Magmortar, Froslass, Roserade, Togekiss, Probopass, Dusknoir, Ambipom, Leafeon, Glaceon, etc. The remakes don't need more just because there weren't enough regional form evolutions in the contemporary region.
There is not a single mechanic in any game that is “needed”. It’s all up to what they think would be popular, and clearly Variants have been. I’m not really sure why you believe that the entire reason for their existence is to avoid National Dex padding, but I’m certain you can’t say that concretely. It’s not a waste of time when it’s a mechanic that would draw in consumers. And, if they did things right, then all those other things you listed could be included as well.But my point is that it's not needed. As I said in my last post, regional forms exist so that they don't dilute the National Dex with too many Pokemon, it would be a waste of dev time for a remake when there are far more popular features desired by fans such as a Battle Frontier, the Distortion World, a good underground, contests, the entire Battle Resort, etc.
Nobody knows why they exist except for GameFreak, and “what makes a good game” is entirely subjective. If they did their research and found that variants are a popular mechanic, then yes they absolutely should include them.EmpoleonProd said:Sure they CAN do it but that doesn't mean they should. Anyone who thinks they should doesn't understand why regional forms exist or what makes a good game lol
That was a typo. I meant the end of the Galar section of the National Dex.Huh? This is a non-issue, Sinnohan forms don't need to be added to the Galar Dex. All regional forms have the same National Dex slots as their original counterparts, and even if they do patch these forms into SwSh, they don't need to be in the Galar Dex I don't think?
That was a typo. I meant the end of the Galar section of the National Dex.
But my point is that it's not needed. As I said in my last post, regional forms exist so that they don't dilute the National Dex with too many Pokemon, it would be a waste of dev time for a remake when there are far more popular features desired by fans such as a Battle Frontier, the Distortion World, a good underground, contests, the entire Battle Resort, etc.
Sure they CAN do it but that doesn't mean they should. Anyone who thinks they should doesn't understand why regional forms exist or what makes a good game lol