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Pokémon Scarlet and Violet Predictions/Speculation/Discussion Thread

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Why would he run away? And if so, why didn't he come back?

If he chased the Loyal Three, he would've been there when Ogerpon went on her rampage.

And if the man was kicked out, then Ogerpon would've gone with him.

Also, just because they explicitly stated someone died once does not mean they're obligated to say it twice.
 
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c la fet said:
Apparently some japanese fans didn't know if Lacey was a boy or a girl and had to check the english site to see if Lacey was a she or a he. (I assume that's because Taro is a male name?)
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Yes, a lot of them still think that, their reasoning is that her Japanese name is Taro, which is in its majority a male name, her having thick eyebrows, her uniform being more similar to the one show used by the male protagonist, and apparently a traumatic event that those fans are having because of the appearances of Grusha and Rika from the base game
 
Lacey could actually be transgender. It would not surprise me if Lacey was in the process of transitioning.

Also, I get the sinking feeling that whenever we go to Area Zero again, Kieran is going to die. Evidence: Stand By Me. The actual ending of the story involves one of the friends dying nobly but pointlessly after having fallen to darkness (well, more accurately the news of it).
 
Sheep40 said:
Lacey could actually be transgender. It would not surprise me if Lacey was in the process of transitioning.

Also, I get the sinking feeling that whenever we go to Area Zero again, Kieran is going to die. Evidence: Stand By Me. The actual ending of the story involves one of the friends dying nobly but pointlessly after having fallen to darkness (well, more accurately the news of it).
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Sounds interesting, but I don't think that Gamefreak would ever have the courage of doing something as based as a trans character like that
 
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Giramax2 said:
Sounds interesting, but I don't think that Gamefreak would ever have the courage of doing something as based as a trans character like that
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They've had the courage to do more based at worse times.
 
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Really? That's based for you? That doesn't seem like something risky to do from them, unlikely actual LGBT+ representation, considering how much the community is hated by gamers
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imo criticism of peta is based, but would still face less backlash than an openly queer character (which is also based). both statements can exist at the same time
 
Sheep40 said:
Lacey could actually be transgender. It would not surprise me if Lacey was in the process of transitioning.

Also, I get the sinking feeling that whenever we go to Area Zero again, Kieran is going to die. Evidence: Stand By Me. The actual ending of the story involves one of the friends dying nobly but pointlessly after having fallen to darkness (well, more accurately the news of it).
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I’d be for it provided they actually have it handled well. Like maybe they could have Lacey hide it at first, not for fear of being bullied, but because she just wants to be known as a kind person and strong trainer rather than being known solely by her personal circumstances.

Another thing that could be done, and I’ve actually said this before but with a different character, is that in the Pokémon World transitioning isn’t that big of an obstacle do to medical technology being advanced. I mean this is the same world that allows you to completely heal your monsters with the Pokémon Center’s machinery. Compared to that and Bill merging himself with a Pokémon, it wouldn’t be surprising if human medical technology could allow for easy transition. Maybe Blueberry Academy helped her with it?
 
Also, that beauty in the battle chateau.

"I used to be a karate guy. Isn't science wonderful"?
 
Giramax2 said:
Really? That's based for you? That doesn't seem like something risky to do from them, unlikely actual LGBT+ representation, considering how much the community is hated by gamers
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milkshayke said:
imo criticism of peta is based, but would still face less backlash than an openly queer character (which is also based). both statements can exist at the same time
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Most gamers that hate gays and trans hate pokemon too and would only drag it into that discourse as a bludgeoning stick (muh rooined childhood).

Also, why the heck are we focusing too much on a character we know nothing about rather than ones we do know a lot about?
 
Sheep40 said:
Most gamers that hate gays and trans hate pokemon too and would only drag it into that discourse as a bludgeoning stick (muh rooined childhood).

Also, why the heck are we focusing too much on a character we know nothing about rather than ones we do know a lot about?
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I don't know, you were the one who talked about the "possibility" of her being trans
 
Because people other than me jacked the thought train into the gender identity of a character we know only the name and appearance of and really didn't mention how, if the stand by me references continue, we are liable to witness Kieran's death.
 
Have the games ever shown a death on-screen before? All the deaths I can think of happened in the backstory. Of course, that doesn't mean Game Freak couldn't break that trend...it just might make it less likely to happen. Or, it might mean they would opt to execute the reference as an ambiguous demise, then reveal Kieran was actually snatched from the brink of death just in time.

Just as an example/thought...in Super Paper Mario, the final chapter consists of the party encountering the Apparent Big Bad's minions one by one and party members staying behind one by one to fight them. Each party member wins their fight but seemingly falls to a follow-up threat in the process. Mario has to fight the Apparent Big Bad all alone and wins...but then Apparent Big Bad gets usurped by Actual Big Bad. Things look bleak...but suddenly all the other party members show up to help, having narrowly survived their harrowing ordeals. Everyone then works together to stomp the daylights out of Actual Big Bad. Maybe the return to Area Zero could play out similarly, with Kieran seeming to die, but then surviving and showing up at a crucial moment to help you win the final battle. (I don't know how likely a scenario like this is, but I personally would find it epic.)
 
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Because people other than me jacked the thought train into the gender identity of a character we know only the name and appearance of and really didn't mention how, if the stand by me references continue, we are liable to witness Kieran's death.
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isn't the "noble but ultimately unnecessary" death thing not exactly uncommon in media? i really doubt it's a stand by me reference, sorry
you could be right but i don't think gamefreak is gonna be ballsy enough to off kieran. ten dollars says he's gonna have some kind of redemption arc by the end of indigo disk.
 
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