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Obama's Eligibility as President in Question

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First of all, there's no Birtherism "on the left" per se. There's Birtherism within the Democratic party, yes, but that's comprised of, essentially, Hillary's center-right supporters (and they've quieted down a lot.)
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They have quieted down alot, but that does not mean they do not have that belief. But then again the further you get away from a election the emotions soften, many who probably thought Bush stole the election have also softened their stance over the years, the further we got away from the Gore campaign. Also I doubt many would consider Philip J. Berg, a man who himself identifies himself as "moderate to liberal", and filed the first Birther lawsuit and really began the movement, would be considered center-right.

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"Trutherism," however, is clearly present in both conservative and liberal circles.
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And yet it finds itself at home more on the Democratic side, than the Republican side.

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But more to the point, you have no evidence to suggest that being a Truther means you don't think Bush was legitimately elected President.
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No, and I never said there was, but many Truthers take such a position out of a hatred for Bush, and Conspiracy Theories. Two things that they do share with "Electioners" or what ever you wish to call them.
 
No, and I never said there was, but many Truthers take such a position out of a hatred for Bush, and Conspiracy Theories. Two things that they do share with "Electioners" or what ever you wish to call them.
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So then why point out that the number of truthers is equal to the number of birthers in the first place, if it's (by your own admission) basically irrelevant?
 
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So then why point out that the number of truthers is equal to the number of birthers in the first place, if it's (by your own admission) basically irrelevant?
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Because we have no polling comparison between "Electioners" and Birthers. Or at least none that I know of. The closest thing I do have was one between Truthers and Birthers, which share some commonalities as I said.

To put it another way, if 9/11 had happened on Obama's watch, do you honestly believe the vast majority of those that would believe Obama let it happen, or had some hand in bringing it down, or actually destroyed it himself, would not also believe Obama is a ineligible President because he 'renounced his citizenship' or 'was born outside of the US'
 
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The OP is an April Fools hoax, all well. There have been a lot of real law suits about this, even going all the way to the Suprem Court. Here is what the First Lady as said about Obama, befor the election. No April Fools here. Make of it what you well.

"When we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV test----for the very point of showing folks in Kenya that there is nothing to be embarrassed about in getting tested."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxh1PvjP0Ug&feature=related


Here is a few websites of those behind the law suits Opposing Obama's eligibility, they are still active and have not been complated yet.

Leo Donofrio's website.

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

Mario Apuzzo's website

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/


Philip J. Berg's website. Orly Taits website as a mailware warning to it, so it well not be listed, but if you wanted to know she is running for Secretary of State of California.

http://obamacrimes.com/


If you dont belive me that she is running for Secretary of State of California, than you can see for your self.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/2010-elections/june-2010/june-2010-candidates-short-list.pdf

Orly is also trying to Have her Quo Warranto Lawsuit Consolidated with States AGs in thier law suit agianst the Health Care Bill. Its not known rather or not it well be added to the AG's lawsuit at this time.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/03/orly-taitz-files-motion-to-have-her-quo.html


One last note, here is the American Grand Jurys website. They have for over a year have been making grand jury presentments to the courts oppsing Obama's eligibility, but since they are not a real federal grand jury, the courts have no reason to accept them.

http://americangrandjury.org/
 
Because the AF threads where in the way while I was moving stuff so I put them here for memorial purpose :-D
 
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