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The Isshu Region in the games

Okay, so now we have enough cities. Now how to handle the Gyms in them.

Any idea what the airport is for?

The airport thing has been discussed quite alot in my opinion...

The desert probably has Pokemon around level 18 range, because there was a wild battle with Meguroko and the background was a desert... I could be wrong thoughh
 
Maybe the airport is for traveling to another region?

No. God no. I don't see the point. With this region being so "far away" from the others that even the route numbers are starting back at 1 instead of 501 I really don't think they'll try to include another region. Yes I understand that the plane could take you to faraway places, I think including an old region ruins the "all new" vibe we're supposed to see.

If, and that's a big if imo, this plane takes you to a new region, I hope to hell it's an all new region. Unlikely but it would be a whole lot better than "you beat the elite 4!! Here's your plane ticket to hoenn/kanto!! Isn't that exciting!?!?" No.
 
I hope they will make a version where you start out in a big city and not a small town
 
No. God no. I don't see the point.
Being able to obtain most of the older Pokémon without relying on the Internet (for the Dream World) or the previous versions, as well providing plot continuation for both Black and White and the older games in question.

Yes I understand that the plane could take you to faraway places,
That's usually the point of air travel, so the use of "could" is inappropriate.

If, and that's a big if imo, this plane takes you to a new region, I hope to hell it's an all new region. Unlikely but it would be a whole lot better than "you beat the elite 4!! Here's your plane ticket to hoenn/kanto!! Isn't that exciting!?!?" No.
I take it that you consider remakes a more exciting way to revisit older regions. "All right, are you ready? Your very own adventure is about to unfold all over again. Take courage, and leap into the world of Pokémon where a sense of of déjà vu awaits! Well, I'll be seeing you later, but you already knew that, didn't you?"

A new region should be the main setting of its own game.
 
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I retain my guess that it'll take you to an "extra area", similar to the Sevii Islands, or a "post-game area" like the Battle Zone. (Staten Island?)

I honestly can't see them including a whole other region for no particular reason. Johto and Kanto were attached. Isshu doesn't really have that same criteria. Just saying "Hey, you beat Isshu, want to randomly explore Hoenn now?" seems shallow, without any purpose for being there. For example, you needed to go to Kanto from Johto, because they shared an Elite Four. Why would you need to go to another region after Isshu? ...Unless Isshu's Elite four was in Ever Grace City...
 
I retain my guess that it'll take you to an "extra area", similar to the Sevii Islands, or a "post-game area" like the Battle Zone. (Staten Island?)

I honestly can't see them including a whole other region for no particular reason. Johto and Kanto were attached. Isshu doesn't really have that same criteria. Just saying "Hey, you beat Isshu, want to randomly explore Hoenn now?" seems shallow, without any purpose for being there. For example, you needed to go to Kanto from Johto, because they shared an Elite Four. Why would you need to go to another region after Isshu? ...Unless Isshu's Elite four was in Ever Grace City...

Including an airplaine to go to a sevii island/battle zone area seems unnecessary though. Why include a new area that far away when they could make it closer and just take a boat there?

unless its land locked. positioned like san fransisco and New york.

Although, a land locked area far enough away to justify taking an airplane would still have completely different pokemon from isshu. If that is the case the area will either have tons of old pokemon or the new pokemon would be split between isshu and the extra area. I'm not a fan of either option.
 
I retain my guess that it'll take you to an "extra area", similar to the Sevii Islands, or a "post-game area" like the Battle Zone. (Staten Island?)
But why would a plane be needed for that? There are already five boats that could be used to get to any island in the vicinity of Isshu (including but not limited to Victiny's habitat). If the island is far from Isshu, what makes a limited region stand out that the player would go there of all places?

I honestly can't see them including a whole other region for no particular reason.
Completing the International Pokédex alone would be a very good reason, given the relative lack of older species in Isshu. One of the problem with Kanto in Generation II and even HGSS is that only a few species are exclusive to that region, making wild Pokémon for the most part expendable. That wouldn't be the case if Hoenn were added to these games.

Just saying "Hey, you beat Isshu, want to randomly explore Hoenn now?" seems shallow, without any purpose for being there. For example, you needed to go to Kanto from Johto, because they shared an Elite Four. Why would you need to go to another region after Isshu? ...Unless Isshu's Elite four was in Ever Grace City...
Should there be another region in these games, that is most likely where the Battle Frontier will be. The combination of that and Pokédex completion would not make for shallow reasoning at all.

But the real reason that there should be a second region is that it would allow the plot to be continued. Even though Generation II Kanto was little more than an elaborate obstacle on the way to Red, that mistake wouldn't have to be repeated here. For instance, we already know that Reshiram's fire moves the atmosphere, so it is a safe bet that it maintains the ozone layer. On the other hand, Zekrom represents technological progress - the never-ending industrial revolution with which comes global warming.

Considering that Game Freak hails from the land of the Kyoto Protocol, I wouldn't be surprised to see ozone depletion as an element in the plot. Even after the climax with Black City/White Forest, global warming shouldn't just be overlooked as an easily solvable issue. That is where Hoenn's Weather Institute could become relevant, being used as an even better incentive to visit the region.
 
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Although, a land locked area far enough away to justify taking an airplane would still have completely different pokemon from isshu. If that is the case the area will either have tons of old pokemon or the new pokemon would be split between isshu and the extra area. I'm not a fan of either option.
Not if was only an area that was really just a little bit over.

In real life, they have flights connecting places there are really only like 2 or 3 hours apart by car. I can honestly see the plane taking you to Niagara Falls or perhaps the Finger Lakes. Or even just some spot in Pensylvania somewhere due to it being the location of the Battle Frontier. Hershy Park, perhaps?


If the island is far from Isshu, what makes a limited region stand out that that the player would go there of all places?
Battle Frontier / Elite Four, I guess.
Why does the Sinnoh Player go to the Battle Zone? Battle Frontier/Tower.
Why does the Johto PLayer go to Kanto? To challenge the Elite Four.


Completing the International Pokédex alone would be a very good reason, given the relative lack of older species in Isshu.
We barely know any of the contents of Isshu. That's a bit of an early guess. For all we know we might be able to find almost every Pokemon within Isshu in the same way we could get almost everything within Sinnoh.

For instance, we already know that Reshiram's fire moves the atmosphere, so it is a safe bet that it maintains the ozone layer.
Doesn't Rayquaza already have that niche?

On the other hand, Zekrom represents technological progress - the never-ending industrial revolution with which comes global warming.

Considering that Game Freak hails from the land of the Koyoto Protocol, I wouldn't be surprised to see ozone depletion as an element in the plot. Even after the climax with Black City/White Forest, global warming problem shouldn't just be overlooked as an easily solvable issue. That is where Hoenn and its Weather Institute could easily become relevant, being used an even better incentive to go to Hoenn.
...What exactly would the player do to fix Ozone Depletion? Go around and hand out fliers about going green?
 
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Battle Frontier / Elite Four, I guess.
Why does the Sinnoh Player go to the Battle Zone? Battle Frontier/Tower.
Why does the Johto PLayer go to Kanto? To challenge the Elite Four.
You're missing the point. Either way, the plane's destination is unlikely to be near Isshu, or it would be redundant not to go there by boat. So to which region would that Battle Frontier belong?

We barely know any of the contents of Isshu. That's a bit of an early guess. For all we know we might be able to find almost every Pokemon within Isshu in the same way we could get almost everything within Sinnoh.
It's been confirmed that few old species can be found in Isshu, making it different from Sinnoh.

Doesn't Rayquaza already have that niche?
No. Rayquaza flies in the ozone layer, but it doesn't control the atmosphere, whereas Reshiram's Pokédex states that it is responsible for moving it.

...What exactly would the player do to fix Ozone Depletion? Go around and hand out fliers about going green?
They would find the legendary Pokémon needed to avoid the impending crisis. Rayquaza and/or the Space Station could be the key to reaching the ozone layer, where a new Pokémon would be able to undo the damage done by greenhouse gases that Zekrom embodies. Reshiram is obviously not the solution as it most likely wants to do away with technology altogether, which wouldn't make for a balanced solution at all. Bear in mind that this might only happen in the third version, but Black and White would need to have these plot elements in the first place.
 
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You're missing the point. Either way, the plane's destination is unlikely to be near Isshu, or it would be redundant not to go there by boat. So to which region would that Battle Frontier belong?
Not everything is accessible by boat. If it was flying farther inland, a boat would be useless. The Plane's presence on the west side of Isshu gives the impression it might be flying that direction (though not definitely). I agree Staten Island was probably a bad idea, but the other ones I posted in my last post, places in upstate New York or Pennsylvania, could have merit.

It's been confirmed that few old species can be found in Isshu, making it different from Sinnoh.
Where was that? If it was I guess I missed that. =X

No. Rayquaza flies in the ozone layer, but it doesn't control the atmosphere, whereas Reshiram's Pokédex states that it is responsible for moving it.
Well, not control, but Rayquaza seemed rather defensive of anything coming into or even passing through the Ozone.

The Ozone Layer is just one part of the Atmostphere... Reshiram's flames may have an effect on the Atmosphere, but that doesn't necessarily mean it controls it. I think that info was just meant to exaggeratively drive in the importance of Reshiram's Flame and how Reshiram seems to have a link to nature, and such rural aspects.

They would find the legendary Pokémon needed to avoid the impending crisis. Rayquaza could be the key to reaching the ozone layer, where a new Pokémon would be able to undo the damage done by greenhouse gases that Zekrom embodies. Reshiram is obviously not the solution as it most likely wants to do away with technology altogether, which wouldn't make for a balanced solution at all. Bear in mind that this might only happen in the third version, but Black and White would need to have these plot elements in the first place.
...I don't quite understand. So it's just that Zekrom's role related to the depletion of the Ozone, and Reshiram wants to... Eliminate Zekrom? Can you explain it out a little more?
 
I don't see what discussing the legends has to do with the Isshu Region itself.
 
I don't see what discussing the legends has to do with the Isshu Region itself.

Exactly what I was going to say! D:

In the in-game map, there seems to be another desert. The one that's on the complete opposite side of the airport area.

But maybe it's just the mountains?
 
Sorry that ain't happening this time around... The starting town will be the southeastern-most town on the Isshu map.

As much as I would like a big city starting town It may be that gamefreak doesn't want to overwhelm the player at the begining. Big cities are usually places that introduce new features. Poketch, GTS, Jubilife TV, Contests.

Of course it is incredibly easy to block off areas in a City. "Don't go into the alleys dear. Wild pokemon appear there" "Sorry, the road out due to road work." "The bridge is out, but there is one in 'Name of Big City' Forrest you can use"
 
As much as I would like a big city starting town It may be that gamefreak doesn't want to overwhelm the player at the begining. Big cities are usually places that introduce new features. Poketch, GTS, Jubilife TV, Contests.

Of course it is incredibly easy to block off areas in a City. "Don't go into the alleys dear. Wild pokemon appear there" "Sorry, the road out due to road work." "The bridge is out, but there is one in 'Name of Big City' Forrest you can use"

Your forgot about "Shh, I'm sketching my own footprints which I could easily sketch anywhere else but Game Freak said I have to sketch them here and pretend they are a rare Pokémons so GO AWAY!"
 
Not everything is accessible by boat. If it was flying farther inland, a boat would be useless. The Plane's presence on the west side of Isshu gives the impression it might be flying that direction (though not definitely). I agree Staten Island was probably a bad idea, but the other ones I posted in my last post, places in upstate New York or Pennsylvania, could have merit.
Let's leave real-life locations out of this; not only is Isshu not confirmed to be based on New York, but that doesn't even affect what we're discussing. Why would the Battle Frontier be cut off from Isshu only to be found further inland? A Battle Frontier isn't associated with any specific environment, after all. Now, if you're saying that the rest of the country may be explored, that changes things considerably, but I don't think that's what you meant.

Where was that? If it was I guess I missed that. =X
The July CoroCoro issue (released in June) said that there are many new Pokémon in Isshu and few ones from older generations.
 
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Why would the Battle Frontier be cut off from Isshu only to be found further inland? A Battle Frontier isn't associated with any specific geographical environment, after all.
The Battle Frontiers are built wherever Game Freak decides to put them. Having them located out if your reach is the simple explanation of why you wouldn't be able to go to it right away. That's what R/S/E and D/P/Pt did. In those games, you simply couldn't get there until you were invited later on in the game. The same can go for Isshu; except rather than a boat, this time it's a plane ride. Why? Why not? The creators wanted to change it up or something. Whether it's still an island or if it's perhaps "inland", explaining why you cant go there by boat, who knows. It's just one possibility of where the plane may take you.

Now, if you're saying that the rest of the country may be explored, that changes things considerably, but I don't think that's what you meant.
I was kinda saying that, in part. As I said, I think it's more likely that the Plane takes you to either a post-game area similar to the Battle Zone, or an extra area similar to the Sevii Islands, rather than a whole second region. And the Battle Zone and the Sevii Islands are based on real locations... So, I was just throwing out a few real-world locations of where the plane could possibly take you to the counterpart of. So, I guess, yeah I was saying that perhaps you may explore a little more of the country. Several of the games have off-map areas. Why not Isshu?
 
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Several of the games have off-map areas. Why not Isshu?
To what end? Wherever this location is, it should accommodate at least 300 of the older Pokémon. It would make sense, then, that it would be closer to the older regions than to Isshu. With a plane as a travel method, I just don't see the need to stay close to Isshu.
 
To what end? Wherever this location is, it should accommodate at least 300 of the older Pokémon. It would make sense, then, that it would be closer to the older regions than to Isshu. With a plane as a travel method, I just don't see the need to stay close to Isshu.
Sure there's no need to stay close to Isshu, but likewise just because there's a plane doesn't mean we instantly need to be flying to another region either. An in-land location is a very reasonable explanation why one might need a plane rather than a boat. If we were traveling to another region, why wouldn't we use a boat, anyway?
 
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