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Preview BW058 - Dent and Pod, The Brothers Battle! Baoppu VS Yanappu!!

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LET'S MAKE OUT MR. HAWWTTY / IT'S KISSSING TIME!
Why am I not surprised that someone said this? =P

I am guessing bro talk, may be?
Sounds plausible. My theory is that Chili asks if he's letting the Gym's reputation down. Seeing Chili flip his shit afterwards, I'd say that Cress didn't tell him what he wanted to hear...
 
Looking forward to this ep. Aw, Pod/Chilli is my favorite of the trio (though water is my favorite type), I really hope to get some great character development out of this, and for him and Pansear to strengthen up, too. I hate seeing them made as the punching bags, or weakest. They're too cute for that.
 
Oh yeah, because someone asked for a translation of the preview
in b4 i get yelled at for inaccuracies because of my failure at comprehending the japanese language

Satoshi: The next adventure is... This!
Dent: Is that Pod? It's been a while! But why are you here? Eh? You quit being a Sanyou Gym leader and are now traveling? You want to have a Pokemon battle with me?! No way.. Exactly what happened? Next time on Pokemon Best Wishes: Dent and Pod, the brothers battle! Baoppu vs. Yanappu!

obviously i fail at this translating business
 
......quit being a Striaton Gym Leader and is now traveling?

WRITERS. STOP READING MY FACEBOOK ROLE PLAYS. o______o; That is exactly what happened back in June on PokeFacebook I'm not even kidding. And he made it to Driftveil. And then went home.

....if this all ends with Pod going home and tackehugging Corn the second he gets in the door I'll shit my pants.
 
But really, why isn't Cress taking part in this battle? I think it should have been a triple battle, which would have been Cilan, Chili & Cress VS Ash, Iris and some rival (Bianca or Luke or someone). Why leave Cress out of the big battle?

EDIT: YES! Me and ^ aren't the only people that likes Cress!
 
Because it's an episode for development of Cilan and his brother. Involving Iris or Ash would really only ruin it. :/
 
Because it's an episode for development of Cilan and his brother. Involving Iris or Ash would really only ruin it. :/
But surely the writers can find something interesting for Cress to do?
 
In the preview though, it said that Chili quit and is traveling. If Cress is running the gym, there really isn't much he can do from that far away besides a phone call :<
 
In the preview though, it said that Chili quit and is traveling. If Cress is running the gym, there really isn't much he can do from that far away besides a phone call :<
Well, Cress could just close the gym for a while, seeing as there are actually much more than 8 gyms in Pokemon regions. But really- a Water type gym leader whose siblings abandon them and leave them to look after the gym? Hmm, where else has that happened before...?

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....But it was the other way around with Misty, was it not? She left and her sisters took care of the gym.

But in any case. I guess they could maybe have Cress show up at the end to take his derpy brother home? Or be like I FOUND YOU YOU BRAT YOU'RE COMING BACK WITH ME D:<
 
He quit? Maybe that was why his Pansear was so angry at him in that Preview...

As tragic as it is, it hasn't been conveyed before in such an extent, and it would make such brilliant character development. Now, I really hope Chili wins!
 
I wanna see Chili win at the end after Cilan inevitably does a whole 'put your trust in your Pokemon herp a derp' thing. :<

Since he's traveling....he should go collect gym badges >3> Maybe show up in the League or something like that.
 
I wanna see Chili win at the end after Cilan inevitably does a whole 'put your trust in your Pokemon herp a derp' thing. :<

Since he's traveling....he should go collect gym badges >3> Maybe show up in the League or something like that.

And since he was a Gym Leader, he only needs seven Gym badges to collect!
 
He quit? Maybe that was why his Pansear was so angry at him in that Preview...
I think Pansear is angry at Chili because they argued after the first battle of the episode, not because Chili rage-quit being a gym leader.
 
I think Pansear is angry at Chili because they argued after the first battle of the episode, not because Chili rage-quit being a gym leader.

I think that trigged it, however, I felt that he felt subtle anger inside towards Chili when he quit, and he bottled it up 'til that moment.
 
there hasn't been any training no hard work

I agree that we haven't seen any on screen, but does it necessarily make the new move cheap? Not really. We've had lots of pokémon learn moves out of nowhere this saga without training specifically for that move (Pikachu with Elecball, Pokabu with Flamethrower, Kibago twice) and sometimes it felt cheap and forced, while at other times, it didn't. The difference is that for example with Pikachu, Pokabu or Yanappu in this episode. They were portrayed as being good battlers beforehand, they had fought battles, won or lost while giving the opponent a hard time, then learned a new move while retaining pretty much the same level of skills. The move itself didn't make them more powerful, capable of doing things they were consistantly portrayed as unable to do, defeat an opponent that's clearly out of their reach and didn't make their win cheap, unlike say Kibago. Yannapu's not getting a win he didn't earn or couldn't have gotten without the move, and the move isn't there to magically solve a problem or character flaw that was previously a plot point and a hurdle in the character's progress. So, I personally have absolutely no problem with it.

I agree with you that showing lots of hard work and having episodes focusing on the pokémon learning new moves would be ideal, but at least, in this case, it's not breaking the suspension of disbelief nor is it cheap in any way, because it's consistant with what was shown before.

Satoshi: The next adventure is... This!
Dent: Is that Pod? It's been a while! But why are you here? Eh? You quit being a Sanyou Gym leader and are now traveling? You want to have a Pokemon battle with me?! No way.. Exactly what happened? Next time on Pokemon Best Wishes: Dent and Pod, the brothers battle! Baoppu vs. Yanappu!

yells at Aestivate :p

But really- a Water type gym leader whose siblings abandon them and leave them to look after the gym? Hmm, where else has that happened before...?

In both cases, the Water Gym Leader's siblings are so much more cooler than them. I mean... let's get back to discussing the episode and not Misty. ; D
 
I agree that we haven't seen any on screen, but does it necessarily make the new move cheap? Not really. We've had lots of pokémon learn moves out of nowhere this saga without training specifically for that move (Pikachu with Elecball, Pokabu with Flamethrower, Kibago twice) and sometimes it felt cheap and forced, while at other times, it didn't. The difference is that for example with Pikachu, Pokabu or Yanappu in this episode. They were portrayed as being good battlers beforehand, they had fought battles, won or lost while giving the opponent a hard time, then learned a new move while retaining pretty much the same level of skills. The move itself didn't make them more powerful, capable of doing things they were consistantly portrayed as unable to do, defeat an opponent that's clearly out of their reach and didn't make their win cheap, unlike say Kibago. Yannapu's not getting a win he didn't earn or couldn't have gotten without the move, and the move isn't there to magically solve a problem or character flaw that was previously a plot point and a hurdle in the character's progress. So, I personally have absolutely no problem with it.
But, unlike Yanappu. Kibago was shown to be out of options, and Pikachu, Kibago, and Pokabu had a nice amount of battles and a small amount of training and hard work under there belts which made them learning new moves in very dire situations expected and believable. Pokabu wanting to save the Pokemon and really working hard with Ember, Pikachu's own electricity backing up on it, and Kibago being out of options and showing a lot of strive to pull through. Yanappu hasn't trained, hasn't struggled as a character, or really won many battles in BW thus far. And yet is supposedly easily beating Pod and Baoppu whom we can assume have battled due to be being tied to Sanyou Gym and have worked hard, and of course after beating them to a pulp all battle *poof* Yanappu magically learns what seems to be Rock Tomb or Natural Gift in the midst of him willing over Baoppu just to add insult to injury. Needlessly handing Yanappu power ups just for the sake of it, makes it feel cheap and very forced for it to get it in the middle of a battle while it's easily creaming an opponent that it isn't struggling against or really putting effort or heart in against.
 
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