Mafia It's All About ME Mafia - Endgame: Returned Prosperity (Town Win) 4/4/16

[jackatlasred]

It's hard to tell who to vote for but I agree with any lynch, United it's a cop, or doctor claim lynch.

 

[Calvinッ]

Gotcha, im here.

My first point is exactly the same as Jolty's.

Elieson's miller claim is dodgy, since it is kinda an easy claim for a Mafia to do. Then again, who knows if he is telling the truth. Im nervous to see how he plays though, but that does give us an insight into who is Mafia later on.

ME is literally soooo scummy right now it hurts.

Also Pikochu, I agree with you with your thinking on votes, no lynch favours Mafia, lynch favours town, usually, the only time i'd disagree is say town has a lynch from a joke vote.

 

[PaulTheProtist]

UNVOTE: jackatlasred

Anyway, IGN looks a little scummy to me. He posted very little in a possible attempt to blend in. @IGN please say more about the game.

VOTE: IGN

 

[Sword Master]

IGN doesn't seem that scummy, and please let's not lynch IGN day 1 (again). But

 

[PaulTheProtist]

Well, he hasn't done much of anything here. It's more of a pressure vote.

 

[Sword Master]

I have seen IGN getting mod killed due to one vote which spiralled out of control, so maybe a FOS instead.

 

[Life]

Wolves?

[Were]wolves=scum. It's terminology used on other sites; I used it alongside mafia because I wasn't sure which Elieson was more accustomed to but wanted to get my point across clearly.

Weird that you jump to Wolf theory. Also rather paranoid, @Life. All i asked was for your faction name, and Zexy even posted it up himself.

Not sure how it's weird I would jump to that theory when you never even stated in your first post that you were claiming Miller, only that you would show up as aligned with the mafia. That's the weird part, if anything. Frankly I don't think it's paranoid of me to not want to claim my faction name; You seem to think/have thought that the faction names are not directly telling of which faction you are aligned to, when that notion is false; so for me to claim my name would have been the same as claiming my faction, which would have been/is pointless because anybody who you ask will tell you they're aligned with the town when they could be lying.

Re: you and Jack, you nailed that one! I figured you would be about for a prompt response.

Nah, being Miller just sucks but -trying- to push for ways to gambit out scum is kind of my thing. I had to start somewhere. Any reason why i shouldnt have picked you/jack?

Well, I replied soon because I was heading out the door but wanted to contribute one more post before I left. d:

Yeah, Miller is never a fun role to play so I can understand why you'd choose to state it so early. However, I can't say I trust it at this point but it's something I'll keep in mind. Knowing that you're an experienced player, I wouldn't put it past you that you claimed so early so that when it comes up later it wouldn't have put as much pressure on you.

I guess people come on more strongly in mafia games now on bmgI don't see why we need to be so hardcore on D1 though I feel suspicious of Life because of how desperate he seems, though I'm perturbed that Elieson needs to push so much.

I saw in your more recent post that you don't find me desperate anymore, but can you explain why you thought I was before you had a change of mind? I'm curious to know since I don't think I was being desperate in the slightest, only inquisitive in trying to figure out Elieson's motives.

Meanwhile, I don't see why people enjoy having NoLynches happen on D1. Might as well let N0 include night actions including a factional kill(s).

Aha, something I agree with!

Vote: Jolty Febe

Inactives, start talking!

Interesting how you pressured Jolty Febe first when there were other players who hadn't said anything at all.

 

[1023475849038261304976210]

So far I've been overzealously cynical in my mafia games, its more reflective of me than you tbh

And I did think it was uncalled for when pikochu targeted me compared to other postless players

 

[Elieson]

Alright, time to lynch for information then.

Vote: Elieson

What are you hoping to gain from this exactly? How will this help town? If anything, town becomes more confused because there is less information out there to effectively lynch from, starting from here. You all know I'll turn up mafia whether i'm scanned or flipped based on my claim. Methinks you just wanna oust a Miller claim because you're wondering what I'll flip as, rather than actually scumhunting.

I don't think jackatlasred is suspicious, seeing as they make short posts all over bmgf. Looking at everything again, I think Life is just defending himself, no more no less.

As for Elieson, he does come off as suspicious though from what I've seen it could be just the general vibes he gives off as a person

Ironic that as I was writing this, Pikochu voted for me. The main reason I've been inactive is because there isn't alot to go off of.

I like your moxie, kid. Get used to my vibes though; they're a package deal~

Actual point of this: alot is grammatically incorrect. It's a lot. Major pet peeve of mine sry bro

ACTUAL POINT OF THIS: If you're calling out inactivity, what strikes you as bad in particular? Do you spot anyone as being dodgy?

It's hard to tell who to vote for but I agree with any lynch, United it's a cop, or doctor claim lynch.

Would you agree with a Tie-type (that has like, 2 ppl lynched, in theory)?

^Town Post btw

Elieson's miller claim is dodgy, since it is kinda an easy claim for a Mafia to do. Then again, who knows if he is telling the truth. Im nervous to see how he plays though, but that does give us an insight into who is Mafia later on.

Also Pikochu, I agree with you with your thinking on votes, no lynch favours Mafia, lynch favours town, usually, the only time i'd disagree is say town has a lynch from a joke vote.

It's tough to work as a mafia claim, primarily becauuuuuuuuuuuse I was the fourth of the ten players to post. if I were mafia fakeclaiming miller, I'd have to hope that I wouldn't get CC'd, or else I'd be on the fast track to an early grave. As scum, I could have just as easily waited for a few more ppl to post and up my chances of getting away with a miller claim.

So far I've been overzealously cynical in my mafia games, its more reflective of me than you tbh

And I did think it was uncalled for when pikochu targeted me compared to other postless players

Why? Were you buttmad over being called out in particular, or is there another reason? If you're being overzealously cynical like you say you are, then this kindergarten kallout shouldn't be impacting you at all.

UNVOTE: jackatlasred

Anyway, IGN looks a little scummy to me. He posted very little in a possible attempt to blend in. @IGN please say more about the game.

VOTE: IGN

Well, he hasn't done much of anything here. It's more of a pressure vote.

##Unvote
##Vote leetic

Look man, if you're gonna vote for somebody, at least make the reason for it accurate. You can't be absurdly obnoxious like me without getting your facts straight first, before laying down a vote.

@Life, you could claim to be sided with the Malcontent Enforcers, or not. it's up to the game to believe you. FWIW if this game had multiple alliances, it'd be hella important to get that info out in the open asap. Don't see what the big deal is. Literally, I asked you to claim town, and you can't even do that. Even a hostile ITP at this point could claim town.

It's a bloody reaction test, geebs. I'm hard-townreading you for your belligerence but boy if it isn't annoying.

 

[1023475849038261304976210]

ACTUAL POINT OF THIS: If you're calling out inactivity, what strikes you as bad in particular? Do you spot anyone as being dodgy?

Is that meant for Pikochu or me? If me I just want to get the posting restriction out of the way, I'll admit what I said wasn't particularly useful but it's better than staying behind.

Why? Were you buttmad over being called out in particular, or is there another reason? If you're being overzealously cynical like you say you are, then this kindergarten kallout shouldn't be impacting you at all.

Meh, you're overstating my reaction. Maybe my word usage was incorrect, I said "uncalled for" because I meant that I thought that it wasn't necessary seeing that I had posted before. Nowhere did I state a large emotional reaction.

 

[Elieson]

It was meant for you, though it could go for both arguably. Makes sense though. I've seen too many people just say "I'm not posting because it's quiet" and it just sucks scumhunting behind that, so to see someone try...assuming you're town, I want things to advance from there, not just be seen as little side jabs to the game and nothing more.

Considering you reacted at all, means that a reaction took place. That's what I'm getting at.

 

[ReturnofMCH]

UNVOTE: jackatlasred

Anyway, IGN looks a little scummy to me. He posted very little in a possible attempt to blend in. @IGN please say more about the game.

VOTE: IGN

well sorry, but I have a life. I was busy yesterday so I only glimsped here once or twice.

 

[1023475849038261304976210]

I fail to see how I called out inactivity. I don't get what you're saying exactly in the above first paragraph, apologies.

Ah, I see. I didn't think about what I was typing there because Pikochu literally posted what he posted there and I thought it was funny.

 

[Elieson]

The main reason I've been inactive is because there isn't alot to go off of.

If this is not calling out inactivity...what is it calling out then?

 

[Snowy]

[Were]wolves=scum. It's terminology used on other sites; I used it alongside mafia because I wasn't sure which Elieson was more accustomed to but wanted to get my point across clearly.

Fair enough and you've just given me an idea for the theme of MSW3. I need to talk to Zexy *runs off*

What are you hoping to gain from this exactly? How will this help town? If anything, town becomes more confused because there is less information out there to effectively lynch from, starting from here. You all know I'll turn up mafia whether i'm scanned or flipped based on my claim. Methinks you just wanna oust a Miller claim because you're wondering what I'll flip as, rather than actually scumhunting.

I'm scum hunting. I've found a highly suspicious claim. I am always suspicious of a miller claim because it is the easiest scum claim there is.

I dunno. I'm new to this whole forceful scum hunting thing, and you're the one that wanted to see me be more proactive in scum hunting, so... You are suspicious to me.

 

[1023475849038261304976210]

Oh you're right, I never thought of it that way. I thought calling out meant directly calling out as with a mention.

I didn't mean to target anyone with that, I just meant it as a general comment from my thoughts, because I didn't feel like there was alot to go off of even with everyone else's comments

 

[PaulTheProtist]

Look man, if you're gonna vote for somebody, at least make the reason for it accurate. You can't be absurdly obnoxious like me without getting your facts straight first, before laying down a vote.

You're criticizing me, without saying why. You aren't saying why my reason is inaccurate. This seems similar to your behaviour in MP Mafia.

F.O.S. Elieson

 

[Elieson]

I can see your thought process, AE.

But the thing is, what next? What do you do after I flip?

What if I flip town? Then what? If I'm scum then at least you net'd an early lynch in a game that arguably has 2 scum (maybe 7:2:1, I HIGHLY doubt 7:3 though). Like, your drive to get information is great and all but what's the longterm gain of your information aside from actually getting a lynch. Would it be more dangerous in your mind to push someone who has already claimed, or someone that hasn't?

You're criticizing me, without saying why. You aren't saying why my reason is inaccurate. This seems similar to your behaviour in MP Mafia.

F.O.S. Elieson

>leetic votes for someone because of [A]
>leetic gets called out by SwordMaster for using [A], under the grounds of SM's bias vs leetic's bias
>leetic says "oh well I actually meant Sword Master is scummy for not [A]"

Or let's make it simpler

>Votes IGN because IGN's apparently being scummy
>Next post changes mind, saying IGN just needs a pressure prod (which has nothing to do with alignment)

Like I said, your inconsistent logic is scummy because you're clearly struggling to maintain your vote.

 

[PaulTheProtist]

I can see your thought process, AE.

But the thing is, what next? What do you do after I flip?

What if I flip town? Then what? If I'm scum then at least you net'd an early lynch in a game that arguably has 2 scum (maybe 7:2:1, I HIGHLY doubt 7:3 though). Like, your drive to get information is great and all but what's the longterm gain of your information aside from actually getting a lynch. Would it be more dangerous in your mind to push someone who has already claimed, or someone that hasn't?

This is kind of the opposite of how you normally act regarding D1 lynches.

>leetic votes for someone because of [A]
>leetic gets called out by SwordMaster for using [A], under the grounds of SM's bias vs leetic's bias
>leetic says "oh well I actually meant Sword Master is scummy for not [A]"

Or let's make it simpler

>Votes IGN because IGN's apparently being scummy
>Next post changes mind, saying IGN just needs a pressure prod (which has nothing to do with alignment)

Like I said, your inconsistent logic is scummy because you're clearly struggling to maintain your vote.

I said a little scummy, and a pressure vote can be used on someone who you find a little scummy. What you're saying makes little sense, so you are currently my #1 scumread.

 

[Maniacal Engineer]

Vote Totals:
leetic: II (jackatlasred, Elieson)
Elieson: I (AussieEevee)
Kakashi Hatake: I (Pikochu)
IGN: I (leetic)

Phase ends in less than 12 hours.