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Leak Repository Thread (WARNING: Huge spoilers!)

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El_ said:
I somewhat disagree with this. The charm of older or retro games is the stylistic presence they offer as a period piece. People go back and play them because they are still fun to play even with less to offer. I don't think everything on that list of features is necessary, but there is no sense in removing features that benefit the overall quality of the series.

This is why they fixed Hoenn not having day/night cycles in the remakes. That feature was not "exclusive" to Johto... what, are they the only ones who can experience a standard 24hr day? By the same, seasons should not be exclusive to Unova. Nor walking Pokemon exclusive to HGSS/Let's Go, and riding Pokemon in the ladder. Anything that makes logical sense to keep and enhances the game-play experience should be kept.

A VS Seeker/Poke Nav to help trainers grind, or give interesting info on battling trainers would alleviate the fixation to make the games easier with little challenge. Now, to revisit a prior point, some things that don't need to be carried over that gives charm to past entries:

Poke'athlon - Pokemon Contest/Poffin Making - Pokemon Musicals - Poke Star Studios (I do miss this one) - Pokemon Amie (debatable) I think better Pokemon interaction betters the series, but not making battles even easier than they already are.

Gimmicky things such as these I completely understand, and in the case of features like rotation and triple battles... Game Freak hardly used them in the Gen they were introduced in. Perhaps they could have benefited from a Colosseum style rpg to better advertise the feature like Gen 3 did w/doubles. Point is, there are things that are gimmicks, and others that should rather be seen as foundations that help the next game entry to build off of.
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Artistic retro styles are nice, but they’re not enough to get me and a large portion of the consumer base to shell out money just to go back and play an outdated game. The main draws of going back are the gameplay elements that you can’t experience in the most recent entries of the series.

There will always be monetary potential in older entries of Pokémon and GF knows this, but there has to be some incentive for the consumer to pay money for a game that isn’t the newest. Not that I like it, that’s just one reason why you don’t see all of these mechanics making a return.
 
This new rumor looks extremely fake. Throwing in the complete dex just to get people to buy the third version? That's super scummy. I don't think that they would do away with the traditional Grass/Fire/Water trio, although Fighting/Flying/Rock is the only suitable replacement.
 
Galar, is in my personal opinion, the best Pokemon game to date. It has the same magic of early Pokemon games. The UK provides rich lore and aesthetic not seen since the Japanese regions. Can’t wait for it to be out and everyone to love it.
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Also, if Sword/ Shield 2 always had the Nat Dex, then Game Freak lied about literally EVERYTHING and every single reason for its removal including the supposed policy going forwards. Fake AF.
 
El_ said:
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Also, if Sword/ Shield 2 always had the Nat Dex, then Game Freak lied about literally EVERYTHING and every single reason for its removal including the supposed policy going forwards. Fake AF.
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They already lied about the reasoning for Dexit. I do think that this is fake however.
 
RileyXY1 said:
They already lied about the reasoning for Dexit. I do think that this is fake however.
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That would go a bit beyond that though. That is literally false advertisement and some horrid business practices which would make EA blush. They would have released an inferior beta product at 60$ only to release the actual thing a year later under false pretenses.

Not even Game Freak is that foolish.
 
El_ said:
That would go a bit beyond that though. That is literally false advertisement and some horrid business practices which would make EA blush. They would have released an inferior beta product at 60$ only to release the actual thing a year later under false pretenses.

Not even Game Freak is that foolish.
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Yeah. That would just be bad marketing and bad PR 101. Not even EA is that scummy.
 
Greninjaman said:
If they were going to add the National Dex to the next game, why not just have it here? Why save that for later games. It's like a Pizzeria saying they don't sell breadsticks anymore, but then start sell breadsticks the next day and beyond.
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They told you. Time.

They didn't copy/paste the data from Sun/Moon, they had to start over from scratch.
 
Kallyle said:
Just found a new leak on 4chan.

72 new Galar Pokemon in total.
20 Gigantamax forms. Some popular choices like Flygon, some wildcards like Ledian.
Third game made alongside SwSh is Sword 2/Shield 2 out in winter 2020. Will have the national dex. Always had it. Marketing strategy to make the third game sell and win appraisal from fans I guess. Business 101 stuff.
Third game will have 3 new starters, not available in SwSh. Fighting > Rock > Flying. Fighting is a lynx. Rock is a bear. Flying is a Puffin. These starters are far superior in my opinion to Sobble, Grookey, and Scorbunny. Mythical archer Pokemon in also in the data for event. Predicted to be very popular up there with Charizard, Lucario etc.

Galar, is in my personal opinion, the best Pokemon game to date. It has the same magic of early Pokemon games. The UK provides rich lore and aesthetic not seen since the Japanese regions. Can’t wait for it to be out and everyone to love it.

You’ll notice lots of new things, like the exclusive gyms, new starter/starter types for the sequels. They’ve introduced new ways to distinguish SwSh, and distinguish the sequels and add new ways to introduce new Pokemon later on.

Sounds both fake and scummy to me.
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72 new pokemon... I find it unlikely that they would introduce the same exact number as Gen 6.

The whole "the third game will have the national dex" is completely ignoring that they said that cutting pokemon from games would be their policy going forward and they have absolutely not backed off from that stance.

Also kind of hilarious that they mention that the UK provides "rich lore and aesthetic not seen since the Japanese regions"... now, I love Kanto and Johto, but no amount of nostalgia covers up the fact that Gens 1-4 were all weaker on aesthetic and lore than Gen 6.


So yeah this is one BS leak right here. XD

RileyXY1 said:
That was debunked multiple times.
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Not really, the only thing that has been proven is that the wireframes match perfectly, so we can surmise that one element of the models did not have to be made from scratch.

The interview was not clear as to what or why anything had to be done over from scratch.
 
The worst part of the leak is actually only 20 gigantamax forms. I mean, Corviknight, Alcreamie, Drednaw, Charizard, Pikachu, Lapras, Meowth, Flygon and Ledian. That basically means just 11 giga forms we don't know. With only 72 pokemon and Dynamax that doesn't really take that much effort, I seriously hope that for the first main games on console they didn't go cheap with the new mechanic (even if it's still an unuseful one nobody asked for).
 
Kallyle said:
Just found a new leak on 4chan.

72 new Galar Pokemon in total.
20 Gigantamax forms. Some popular choices like Flygon, some wildcards like Ledian.
Third game made alongside SwSh is Sword 2/Shield 2 out in winter 2020. Will have the national dex. Always had it. Marketing strategy to make the third game sell and win appraisal from fans I guess. Business 101 stuff.
Third game will have 3 new starters, not available in SwSh. Fighting > Rock > Flying. Fighting is a lynx. Rock is a bear. Flying is a Puffin. These starters are far superior in my opinion to Sobble, Grookey, and Scorbunny. Mythical archer Pokemon in also in the data for event. Predicted to be very popular up there with Charizard, Lucario etc.

Galar, is in my personal opinion, the best Pokemon game to date. It has the same magic of early Pokemon games. The UK provides rich lore and aesthetic not seen since the Japanese regions. Can’t wait for it to be out and everyone to love it.

You’ll notice lots of new things, like the exclusive gyms, new starter/starter types for the sequels. They’ve introduced new ways to distinguish SwSh, and distinguish the sequels and add new ways to introduce new Pokemon later on.

Sounds both fake and scummy to me.
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They know more about the sequels than SwSh themselves? I doubt it’s even beyond the conceptual stage currently if it exists...
 
Kallyle said:
72 new Galar Pokemon in total.
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Number 17 promising the entire dex! Fakers never learn.
Kallyle said:
Third game made alongside SwSh is Sword 2/Shield 2 out in winter 2020. Will have the national dex. Always had it. Marketing strategy to make the third game sell and win appraisal from fans I guess. Business 101 stuff.
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Business 101: Make a fake controversy to stir up drama, keep your solution secret, and then release it later after you've release your product with the problem in it. It's such a great business move! What do you mean fans will be mad to figure out that you lied? This is brilliant!
NealIRC said:
They told you. Time.

They didn't copy/paste the data from Sun/Moon, they had to start over from scratch.
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So why'd they program all Pokemon into LGPE, despite only using 153 of them?

View: https://twitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1141713499544006656


Oriden said:
Not really, the only thing that has been proven is that the wireframes match perfectly, so we can surmise that one element of the models did not have to be made from scratch.
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Riley was saying that data was debunked, not models.

swiftgallade46 said:
There will always be monetary potential in older entries of Pokémon and GF knows this, but there has to be some incentive for the consumer to pay money for a game that isn’t the newest. Not that I like it, that’s just one reason why you don’t see all of these mechanics making a return.
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I get the logic here, but it's also kinda confusing that they would choose to do this when only Gen 1 and Gen 2 are on VC, meaning all other games are being bought secondhand.
 
RileyXY1 said:
This new rumor looks extremely fake. Throwing in the complete dex just to get people to buy the third version? That's super scummy. I don't think that they would do away with the traditional Grass/Fire/Water trio, although Fighting/Flying/Rock is the only suitable replacement.
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Problem is that Rock will never be a Starters main type, since its too OP (Early routes are mainly birds and bugs). You can make the same argument about Fighting, since the majority of the early routes will be Normal types.
 
swiftgallade46 said:
Aren’t they all on Amazon? I also still see the likes of HG/SS and B2W2 in Wal-Mart and GameStop.
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Oh, really? I thought the Amazon ones were all secondhand sellers, but I guess if Walmart still has some it sounds like it's official sales. Seems odd, though-HGSS is nearly a decade old, so I would think they'd lose money by continuing to make it for that long, with not many buyers.
 
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