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I think one thing we can all agree on is, they're both ugly. Piplup is the cutest.
I dunno what you're talking about. Venusaur is adorable:
Who would win in a battle?
Torterra
Venusaur is faster and 2HKO's with Grass Knot.
Which one do you prefer? Torterra
Which is more useful? Both
Which one would win in a battle? Probably Venusaur if it has Grass Knot but if not then Torterra with Curse.
I vote Torterra because It has a way better movepool than Venusaur, especially Wood Hammer. Venusaur's sp.attack stat is good but it's movepool is quite weak and that won't be useful. Torterra has stronger moves than Venusaur. Venusaur's attack stat is not good and most of it's moves are physical. It has Petal Dance which is a strong sp.attack but has a side effect. I guess Solar Beam is the only move which is useful. Venusaur can't even learn Leaf Storm which it can only learn by breeding. That's a disappointment. But Venusaur is far better than Torterra in speed. In typing I guess Venusaur. In my opinion Torterra looks better than Venusaur. Venusaur just looks ugly to me.
1. First of all nearly all the moves that you've mentioned aren't Venusaur's movepool. They are TMs that it's able to learn and you can't just point out a Japanese Bulbasaur event because it isn't compatible for other versions so it won't be fair for Torterra.
2. It isn't really considered to be an original movepool. More like a breeding movepool which is different because it cannot learn them itself.
1. First of all nearly all the moves that you've mentioned aren't Venusaur's movepool. They are TMs that it's able to learn and you can't just point out a Japanese Bulbasaur event because it isn't compatible for other versions so it won't be fair for Torterra.
2. It isn't really considered to be an original movepool. More like a breeding movepool which is different because it cannot learn them itself.
What kind of logic is this? A pokemon's move pool isn't restricted to what they learn by level up. It encompasses every move that they learn, by TM, breeding, tutor, etc. I think you're the only person I've ever seen who considers a Pokemon's movepool to be restricted to level up only.
1. First of all nearly all the moves that you've mentioned aren't Venusaur's movepool. They are TMs that it's able to learn and you can't just point out a Japanese Bulbasaur event because it isn't compatible for other versions so it won't be fair for Torterra.
2. It isn't really considered to be an original movepool. More like a breeding movepool which is different because it cannot learn them itself.
What kind of logic is this? A pokemon's move pool isn't restricted to what they learn by level up. It encompasses every move that they learn, by TM, breeding, tutor, etc. I think you're the only person I've ever seen who considers a Pokemon's movepool to be restricted to level up only.
You've clearly misunderstood me. I didn't say that Pokemon is restricted to level up moves. I know that it matters on TMs, breeding and tutoring. I just stated that these moves are not moves that Venusaur learns. All I said was that Torterra has a better movepool and I mean the LEVELING UP movepool, so you're wrong.
Venusaur still gets Sleep Powder via level up, and let's face it, that alone makes all the difference.
Well yes that's a good part of it's levelling up movepool. But still Torterra has Wood Hammer, Earthquake and Crunch.
Of course, Growth and Synthesis certainly don't hurt any.
1. First of all nearly all the moves that you've mentioned aren't Venusaur's movepool. They are TMs that it's able to learn and you can't just point out a Japanese Bulbasaur event because it isn't compatible for other versions so it won't be fair for Torterra.
2. It isn't really considered to be an original movepool. More like a breeding movepool which is different because it cannot learn them itself.
What kind of logic is this? A pokemon's move pool isn't restricted to what they learn by level up. It encompasses every move that they learn, by TM, breeding, tutor, etc. I think you're the only person I've ever seen who considers a Pokemon's movepool to be restricted to level up only.
You've clearly misunderstood me. I didn't say that Pokemon is restricted to level up moves. I know that it matters on TMs, breeding and tutoring. I just stated that these moves are not moves that Venusaur learns. All I said was that Torterra has a better movepool and I mean the LEVELING UP movepool, so you're wrong.
How am I wrong? Venusaur still learns them, just not from level up. In your original post, all you said was movepool. It's natural that from this people would assume you meant... movepool. Not level up only moves. And frankly, the distinction means nothing. It really doesn't matter where a Pokemon gets their moves from as long as they get the moves. Venusaur's movepool is far superior to Torterra.
Which one do you prefer? Torterra
Which is more useful? Both
Which one would win in a battle? Probably Venusaur if it has Grass Knot but if not then Torterra with Curse.
I vote Torterra because It has a way better movepool than Venusaur, especially Wood Hammer. Venusaur's sp.attack stat is good but it's movepool is quite weak and that won't be useful. Torterra has stronger moves than Venusaur. Venusaur's attack stat is not good and most of it's moves are physical. It has Petal Dance which is a strong sp.attack but has a side effect. I guess Solar Beam is the only move which is useful. Venusaur can't even learn Leaf Storm which it can only learn by breeding. That's a disappointment. But Venusaur is far better than Torterra in speed. In typing I guess Venusaur. In my opinion Torterra looks better than Venusaur. Venusaur just looks ugly to me.