• Hey Trainers! Be sure to check out Corsola Beach, our newest section on the forums, in partnership with our friends at Corsola Cove! At the Beach, you can discuss the competitive side of the games, post your favorite Pokemon memes, and connect with other Pokemon creators!
  • Due to the recent changes with Twitter's API, it is no longer possible for Bulbagarden forum users to login via their Twitter account. If you signed up to Bulbagarden via Twitter and do not have another way to login, please contact us here with your Twitter username so that we can get you sorted.

Mafia Periodic Table Mafia ~ Endgame

Status
Not open for further replies.
Reader mode
Ereshkigal said:
And, the vig kill answers itself if you look at how I first responded to Eli. I don't think he has vig kills at all, but do think he can kill at night and is threatening a vig kill to try to control the conversation.
Seriously, have someone cop check me tonight. They'll tell you I'm quite attractive of attention, but not worth killing. If anything, smart town might find a use for my ability I've not thought of.

And, yes, it is mostly fluff. Even serious conversation can be fluff.
Click to expand...

I don't have vig kills. I was suggesting at the time that a vig has reason to shoot you, for not being productive and/or helpful to town accomplishing anything. In fact, since you're cluttering the thread with largely pointless posts, you're actually making the game more difficult if you are town, because you're distracting us from being able to look at scum doing scummy things because you're doing scummy things.

Unless... Hello ITP claim?

And if conversation can be fluff, and there's mostly fluff, then cut the conversation.

Maniacal Engineer said:
@Ereshkigal @Max1996: a little required reading for y'all.
Mafia: - Christmas Mafia! ENDGAME: It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year (Town Win!)
Mafia: - Masters of the Whoniverse! (Doctor Who Mafia) - Endgame: Day of the Doctor (Town Victory) 11/17/15

Those are good representations of Elie's "normal" playstyle as town.
Click to expand...

My god...you bring up a fabulous point. I have gotten soft since last season. I've really been slacking. I blame the lack of OC, personally, as OC basically let me steamroll those two games, and Dr Who was my first game on this site (for those who don't know)!

HumanDawn said:
TBH, I'm not getting scum vibes from Eresh. It sounds like their attitude is just a personality thing. I think scum are likelier to try to take something they could take seriously, well, seriously, instead of joke around a bit more instead of "scumhunting".
Click to expand...

Interesting take on his play thus far. No one called him out on his beeswax until I did, then you saw the game literally follow me like a lost puppy (and I didn't even feel like voting for the guy). He was doing this for a while. Why would you say that he's not taking things seriously, when he's obviously taking them seriously now regarding self-defense (if nothing else)?

DarthWolf13 said:
You never know, I just wanted to be sure.
It might, on the other hand, it might also make him safer with a role that is not much of a danger to the mafia.
Ereshkigal claimed such a role as well.

How are we supposed to make use of it if we have no idea what we are dealing with?
Click to expand...

Now this is interesting. Whatchya trying to squeeze a claim out of Ereshkigal for m8?
 
@Elieson I was thinking of this post: Mafia: - Periodic Table Mafia ~ Day 1 (Origins)

It is very fluffy but I think scum would try to cut fluff and seem more in the game when everything is more serious rather than joke around more. It would be scummy if Eresh was faux contributing (like Olive did D1 in XYZ Mafia) but I'm not getting that impression from them and think it's just a personality, oooor maybe even an inexperience thing. Basically it isn't scummy fluff to me, scum would fluff with trying to say something like as if it would lead the game somewhere.
 
Maniacal Engineer said:
FA then calls out Ereshkigal for continuously joking and brings up the post where Eresh "calls out" a bunch of specific players as "dangerous," as a bad first "serious" post. - Eresh continuously joking when there are serious matters to discuss is disconcerting, though not necessarily indicative of her scum playstyle. On the other hand, it was fairly clear that the post FA was referring to wasn't meant as a serious post at all. Dunno if that makes things better or worse.
Click to expand...
I thought that Ereshkigel's post was actually being serious, so that's my bad there. The tone seemed different from Ereshkigel's prior two obvious jokes so I read it as legit. And I'm not very familiar with Ereshkigel's posting/humor style since I think we've just been in the FE: Fates game together.

On a related note...
Zexy said:
The strange thing about it is that they came a bit out of the blue, she did quote a single Eresh post... but I don't get why she only pointed this out while ignoring others.
Click to expand...
Connected to what I said above, I thought Ereshkigel's post was serious and that's why I quoted it rather than some of the other earlier posts by other players since the rest I could tell were jokes. The way it looked like a serious-yet-fluff and a bit nonsensical logic-wise post (with the whole "town is in danger even without scum," before I now know it was a joke) coming off the heels of not much else is what bothered me about it.
Maniacal Engineer said:
Conclusion: FA's main argument for voting Elie was meta based. Not a big fan of that. She also spent a lot of time defending her meta reasoning, which I also find slightly odd.
Click to expand...
Yeah, I will admit a large part of my vote was meta, though that is why I tried to elaborate on it since at least a few people didn't seem to understand why I brought it up (Feenie and jdthebud). I wanted to be clear about why I thought it was relevant to this situation and game.
Midorikawa said:
Lastly I don't remove votes till I change them unless my vote presents the danger if causing the death of someone at that moment. Icase in point is my vote on darth remained until I voted elie, despite me realizing after ME pointed it out that I voted a joke post. And thus untill I find a case I don't see a point to remove my vote. I rather keep that extra pressure there. Not like it's hurting anyone.
Click to expand...
Midorikawa said:
UNVOTE: Elieson

Forgot that in my last post. He isn't scummy enough to have the majority, and I'm finding Eresh to be much more scummy currently. I am waiting on responses to stuff before voting though.
Click to expand...
NOTE: all the bold minus the unvote is for emphasis and added by me

This seems like a contradiction. You say in the first post that you don't remove votes until you either a) change them or b) the person is in danger of dying. Yet you unvote Elieson in the second post without a) replacing the vote with another and b) Elieson wasn't in danger. It's especially odd coming from you since you usually use pressure votes very frequently to try to get answers, and you even mention that in the first post about keeping "extra pressure." Then why haven't you voted Ereshkigel - who you find scummy - for either a legit vote or at least pressure? What responses are you waiting for? I hate to sound like I'm turning into a Meta Monster, but this doesn't seem like town!Midori play.

VOTE: Midorikawa
Ti3BtXT.png

actual irl photo of me using meta

this is a joke, i'm seriously trying to just use meta when it feels relevant and that time is now lol
Ereshkigal said:
Also, it does make me town every time. I play a lot less suspiciously as Mafia. Seriously, have someone cop check me tonight. They'll tell you I'm quite attractive of attention, but not worth killing. If anything, smart town might find a use for my ability I've not thought of.
Click to expand...
again, the bold is my emphasis

The thing is, that's a classic godfather tactic. Of course a godfather would want to be copchecked, and 9/10 games seem to have godfathers. Not saying that it means you're godfather, but rather that even a copcheck isn't totally reliable in determining innocence until anything that can alter results is out of the picture.
 
Okay I'm done. Apparently no one cares to read an actually pay attention to what I'm saying or the fact that half the time the answer is in the post or obvious.

And I honestly don't have the patience or time because I'm at work and stuck ere till closing.

Go ahead and vote and lynch me if you want but it will majorly hurt the town much much more than Zexys fear lynch in superheroes mafia. And that's all I will say because the mafia doesn't need to know more. If they want to know my role they can nightkill me.
 
Midorikawa said:
Go ahead and vote and lynch me if you want but it will majorly hurt the town much much more than Zexys fear lynch in superheroes mafia. And that's all I will say because the mafia doesn't need to know more. If they want to know my role they can nightkill me.
Click to expand...
I suppose I could say the same about myself.
 
I'm not convinced by the evidence against Mido at the moment, the case against her mostly seems to stem from her votes on Darth and Elie and her defences for those votes. Her defences seemed to involve throwing the accusations back at the person asking the question but seems pretty normal for Mido. She doen't usually give much away when asked questions.
 
Day 1: Hour 36 Votals

Midorikawa: 3 (HumanDawn, Maniacial Engineer, FinalArcadia)
Elieson: 2 (Max1996, Ereshkigal)
Max1996: 2 (DarthWolf13, Elieson)
Ereshkigal: 2 (CheffOfGames, Feenie)
Maniacial Engineer: 1 (Zexy)
HumanDawn: 1 (Lone_Garurumon)

Phase ends in 36 hours (April 26th, 2017 at 9:30 PM UTC -8) unless there's a hammer. Hammerlynching requires 12 votes.

@TheCapsFan, still waiting on your confirmation.

Now if only Silver Surfer and Iron Man team up, they'd be alloys.

Edit: Maniacial Engineer's vote count was inaccurate. This has been fixed. (9:51AM UTC-8, 4/25)
 
Last edited:
@Pikochu check your Votals, please. Zexy unvoted me.
Zexy said:
Hello everyone. Sorry I'm a bit inactive but I'm very sick and the idea of having to analyze all these pages kinda doesn't help now.
Although I'll give it a try, eventually.

UNVOTE: Maniacal Engineer

Joke vote is out.
Click to expand...
 
Maniacal Engineer said:
Any better options or analysis, RC?
I'm all ears, which isn't surprising considering they're the only visible feature of my face, mind you...
Click to expand...

As for any scumreads on who to lynch, not at the moment. I need more time to get a better read on everyone, I'm still not sure on how to read you, Human, Zexy or FA at the moment for instance.

I'd prefer to avoid doing anything rash on day 1, I do get the feeling though that Mido is not being given much of an opportunity to defend herself at the moment, it seems that everying she is saying is just being dismissed in order to push through a lynch. You may not agree with her defence but it's always worth considering what she has to say.

As for Elie, I'm probably leaning more town at the moment, making that cult claim was pretty risky when he did, I'm not sure scum would want to do that even if it does distract us from scumhunting.
 
@DarthWolf13 What does it say that I know what it is and I still have no idea how it can be of use?
 
@Elieson That is why pressuring people to post more is scummy. It clutters yhe conversation with junk. Which is why I called you out fpr misuse of pressure.

@FinalArcadia Nah, I'm much better at being Godmother than to use that classic of a strategy. I was never even close to the radar last time I was Godmother. Also, scum wouldn't be so attractive to divine retrobution or so capable of safety grounding it,

I've also outright stated my role once... People missed the clue.

@Iteru Nope! I'm quite conductive to developing modern civilization. Also, liberty is made of me.
 
3 new pages, aww :(
Really hope I'm feeling better tomorrow since I started medication so I can tackle this more effectively from that point onwards.
Once again going to reply to posts that in some way have to do with me as I wouldn't like your questions unanswered.
Feenie said:
You mentioned Human, FA, and Midori but only proceeded to talk about what you thought about Human and Midori. You didn't really talk about your opinion on FA. Albeit, I see you have now.
Click to expand...
I don't remember saying much about Human either tbqh. Mido I expanded on more since she was the last person to vote.
Ereshkigal said:
Just ask Zexy about how likely that is to make me scum. He's seen me actually play as scum before, and he knows how I play it. Seeming scummy as town, almost like I'm a lightning rod for attention? That's normal for me when I'm town. You could say I electrify the conversation.
Click to expand...
I don't think that applies so much, honestly. I've only seen one scum game of yours (Card Mafia) and the difference it had to the town games is that you were posting a bit less I think and also more willing to switch around cases as it fit you.
FinalArcadia said:
Connected to what I said above, I thought Ereshkigel's post was serious and that's why I quoted it rather than some of the other earlier posts by other players since the rest I could tell were jokes. The way it looked like a serious-yet-fluff and a bit nonsensical logic-wise post (with the whole "town is in danger even without scum," before I now know it was a joke) coming off the heels of not much else is what bothered me about it.
Click to expand...
I see, I should check that Ereshkigal post again then and put into perspective. Anyway, I see more attempts from you to push more cases which is better than my earlier thoughts on you.

@Elieson I know I owe you an HD analysis sorry :(
Anyways, everyone, if there is something you'd like me to address soonish pls ask. It is true that I might not be trying as hard as in other games because I'm sick :( But I could focus on specific things especially if the post content involved isn't way too much (like that FA analysis which ended up being pretty small).
 
Reader mode
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom