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Mafia Gladiator (2000 film) Mafia - ENDGAME - Commodus's Reign - MAFIA VICTORY

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Zexy said:
I might do it later, right now self preservation says I have to go with Space, to me not staying true to self preservation is ALWAYS throwing, regardless of alignment

If town somehow picked 2 wrong wagons AGAIN that is unfortunately on them, not me

I still do not buy the Mido is HARD cleared, you defend her so hard for someone being so wrong (yeah I know I was wrong alongside her). Yet you only consider scum me sheeping her and not scum her pocketing me.

Yeah if Mido is scum you always are her buddy :( But role wise you two make more sense as our cop/doc like people, Space/Jamie might actually make less sense

And I am starting with Space (Jamie is never lynchable today, he indeed should not be)
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I also correctly deduced that Minish was town... yes that was easier but there seemed to be some suspicion on her despite her very town sided role and play

I'm very good at finding town. Nobody is perfect and if I'm wrong I'm wrong but I will always put my faith in myself.
 
Me and Jamie (supposedly) logic (and even killed Minish tbh) is that Ex, despite being confirmed town, has kinda wrong reads? His tunnel on Mido felt... wrong. If you really are town, please consider Space/Jamie more, Jamie sure played boldly this game if scum but it would have worked for him?
 
Zexy said:
This is an 6p MILO. Hammer rules are active. So if 2 town vote for another town, this is over.

However, I know that my secret vote does not count towards the hammer quota. The fake one does. So I am not fake voting anybody to make it unnecessarily easier for scum.

If you also do not vote until 4 other people have voted, and assuming Space is never voting herself (duh), scum cannot ever CFD us.

So I think the best plan is, have all 4 people vote (in whatever order you wish), then I secret vote, then I public vote whoever you wish, then you hammer.

Does that sound like the safest way possible to do this, or do you have a better idea?
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me being last one to vote makes no difference, if anyone votes wrong this phase scum can try to win

and if you're town why did you claim about your vote count counting for hammer? it could've been useful for tricking scum into hammering when the leading wagon is another
 
Argonne said:
I also correctly deduced that Minish was town... yes that was easier but there seemed to be some suspicion on her despite her very town sided role and play

I'm very good at finding town.
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I am willing to believe you are good at finding town. You did find Minish town. If you are town, you probably also found Mido town too, and if that is the case, I will applaud you.

Unfortunately, you are not as good at finding scum. And we have very different playstyles. Just for a second, assume I am town, and your vision of the game should clear.

If you REALLY are town, this is probably Space and Jamie. If you pick whoever of the two you think is scummier, I am willing to vote for them alongside you, and if they flip scum, I will consider you near clear the very next moment.
 
Argonne said:
Why should town sheep the IC?

Cause he's... an IC? In a mylo where there's way too many question marks. Town is scattered the PoE is way too large scum is shitting on us here because town can't find each other

Town knows Ex is town. And only Ex. Every other town player should be wary of every other player that isn't themself and Ex yes?

So when town is basically running blind and the PoE is so incredibly large and everyone is lost in the sauce you have been given a confirmed town. You know their thought process is coming from a towny place. You sheep them.

The only problem is I know why Ex is alive and it concerns me

Because Ex is alive and Minish is dead because Minish was quiet and had no thread presence and Ex is very loud conf town and very wrong.

Ex is tunneled on Mint and I understood why but he should see that the reason he's still alive and the reason the kill makes no sense with mint means he's just wrong here and needs to think outside of mint worlds.
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By the way. As a wolf I never hard clear someone in the PoE unless I'm paired exactly with them. Taking options off the table is bad.

So if I'm wolf you must think I'm with exactly Mint yes?

But than tell me why I have the most town sided ability ever. If I'm wolf and I'm with exactly Mint why do I have an ability that gives town a free clear?

If I'm wolf and I'm with Ex and my ability is a mod confirm lie that allows my pack mate to go deep than why do I take Mint off the table and remove a misexe?

My play is extremely extremely towny unless you think I'm with exactly Mint. My mech is extremely towny unless you think I'm with exactly Ex.

It is impossible for anyone to justify my play as wolfy on both levels.
 
Zexy said:
Me and Jamie (supposedly) logic (and even killed Minish tbh) is that Ex, despite being confirmed town, has kinda wrong reads? His tunnel on Mido felt... wrong. If you really are town, please consider Space/Jamie more, Jamie sure played boldly this game if scum but it would have worked for him?
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It’s still better to sheep a confirmed town in a MYLO than it is to follow a town member sussed by them. What is your explanation for me being scum vanilliser if there is also a milleriser?
 
I need to go spend time with my girlfriend... this thread is a problem for me right now so I'm out till later.

I simply can not believe that both mint and Zexy are town if I'm wrong I'm sorry.
 
I'm alive either because scum was worried minish had more investigative shots (which wouldn't matter much cuz everyone was vanilized) or because scum is taunting me, there isn't a secret here
 
ExLight said:
me being last one to vote makes no difference, if anyone votes wrong this phase scum can try to win

and if you're town why did you claim about your vote count counting for hammer? it could've been useful for tricking scum into hammering when the leading wagon is another
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Maybe yes, maybe not. It sure makes scum harder to sheep you, although tbh if it is Jamie Space they know you would go Mido anyway and can do just that lol

I did not think of it that way. I asked and claimed it so that town has the maximum info it deserves to have, this is MILO. It is not like scum can use this somehow against us, my vote is always secret and with how much I switch wagons they should be afraid of it, this is what I am trying to achieve since yesterday (did not really know about hammer then, but it could still be useful).

I even want the remaining scum to consider killing me instead of you or the real action protection role of this game. If I do this right even as late as today it might work. I can hope... (Nagito stuff)
 
ExLight said:
I'm alive either because scum was worried minish had more investigative shots (which wouldn't matter much cuz everyone was vanilized) or because scum is taunting me, there isn't a secret here
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It could matter if we lynch right today then Mido/Jamie would target Minish while she used the other investigative shot n4

I mean a Mido or Jamie kill would give town unnecessarily much info, a Minish kill could be safer if they were really afraid Minish had more
 
Zexy said:
Maybe yes, maybe not. It sure makes scum harder to sheep you, although tbh if it is Jamie Space they know you would go Mido anyway and can do just that lol

I did not think of it that way. I asked and claimed it so that town has the maximum info it deserves to have, this is MILO. It is not like scum can use this somehow against us, my vote is always secret and with how much I switch wagons they should be afraid of it, this is what I am trying to achieve since yesterday (did not really know about hammer then, but it could still be useful).

I even want the remaining scum to consider killing me instead of you or the real action protection role of this game. If I do this right even as late as today it might work. I can hope... (Nagito stuff)
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why would scum "sheep" me if I'm right about them? and if you're town then vomiting info freely without thinking how to use it might've just thrown away our only remaining role trick to mess scum up lol

you shouldn't even have your vote because everyone is still
vanillized, in any case?
 
Zexy said:
I mean a Mido or Jamie kill would give town unnecessarily much info, a Minish kill could be safer if they were really afraid Minish had more
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killing Jamie would give literally zero information and it's comments like these that make me scumread you
 
Let's be honest here, both Mido and Jamie could be the scum trying to pocket me. Mido side has won over Argonne while Jamie side may have won over Ex. My vote is secret and scum knows it and know I am never placing a public vote unless asked, they know it is optimal play from my POV. Only Argonne could be a scum thinking I am lynchable, which does not check out with Mido playstyle so far and them scum team. Jamie may think going for me is a lost cause if Ex and Mido never agree on this, so he is playing it low alongside Space to see if someone gets convinced and switches...

Seriously the only people who have voted are Mido and Argonne, and voted different people too, I do not see scum doing this, there is very little to be gained from it. I might have voted Space for self pres too already. Ex is Ex, when he votes matters little

It is Jamie and Space who are waiting, because they are afraid I am not lynchable, they also do not want Space lynched, but ganging up on me alongside Argonne is not enough, the votes will be 3-3, and even if we end up no lynch and they manage to kill one of Ex/Mido, leading down to 5p, Argonne may figure out they were super sus for this.

They want to see if Ex will also vote Space, if that happens, and they cannot stop it, with me also voting Space for self pres, Jamie will have no option but to bus...

@JamieIsBored Vote. Now.
 
ExLight said:
killing Jamie would give literally zero information and it's comments like these that make me scumread you
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It would make me read Space more town, and get rid of a Bulletproofizer before he gets to give out the BPV, but honestly atm I think it is Space/Jamie
 
Vote: Zexy

Your case on me reeks and is making me trust you less. You still haven’t explained how there would be a milleriser and a vanilliser on the same team and both picking the same person. You yourself are secret voter (a regularly non-town role) and you have the potential of being the milleriser too. You have done little to no defence since everyone has started sussing you and you are throwing around weak accusations that you have attempted to sew in peoples minds numerous times early on, you repeatedly had tinfoil theories on the two most confirmed town players behind Ex (me and Minish).

You are either scum or the indep.
 
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