Who Will Be The Champion; Steven or Wallace?

[Pikafanboy]

What if contests are remade to be more like the anime with contest battles and Wallace takes the roll of the contest Champion? Then Steven can be the League Champion.

 

[Midorikawa]

Okay people are saying the remakes take from the third games but no they don't. FRLG for example don't follow Yellow, otherwise you would have a walking pikachu. HGSS only took the suicune plot from Crystal, other than that though they were basically the same as GS since you could always catch Lugia, Ho-oh and the legendary beasts in GS. Why should these be any different? The most I could imagine them taking from Emerald is the battlefrontier and maybe the battle tents, but plots will be version exclusive and such like the originals. If anything hopefully they'll remake Emerald as well since you can't mix it with with RS easily.

If they don't remake it though, then it would be best to just go original plots, with adding more depth of course, but also maybe doing what they did with Drayden and Iris, and thus leaving Steven as the champion. It would actually be nice to have an after game plot where we see Wallace become the champion like he did in Emerald, and then they could go RS2 for us like BW2. Now wouldn't that be cool? All in all though it will probably be Steven as champion.

 

[Phoenixon]

Okay people are saying the remakes take from the third games but no they don't. FRLG for example don't follow Yellow, otherwise you would have a walking pikachu. HGSS only took the suicune plot from Crystal, other than that though they were basically the same as GS since you could always catch Lugia, Ho-oh and the legendary beasts in GS. Why should these be any different? The most I could imagine them taking from Emerald is the battlefrontier and maybe the battle tents, but plots will be version exclusive and such like the originals. If anything hopefully they'll remake Emerald as well since you can't mix it with with RS easily.

For FR/LG, you should know that Pokemon BLUE was actually the third version in Japan, Yellow was a "Special" version or something like that. But, imo, the differences between Red, Green, and Blue are too little for us to know if FR/LG were in fact based off Red and Green, OR if they were based off Blue, the true third version.

For HG/SS (*Sigh*... We went through this before.)
First of all, HG/SS take the Ruins of Alph/Unown sub-plot from Crystal as well.
Second of all, OF COURSE "other than" the suicune plot they are the same as GS, because other than that plot HOW ELSE WAS CRYSTAL DIFFERENT FROM G/S? HG/SS were made AS SIMILAR as they could be to Crystal WHILE still having enough differences to justify remaining separate versions.

Sorry for the caps .

 

[BlackButterfree]

Seriously? Iris and Lance are DRAGON masters. While not all of Lance's Pokémon were of that type, they were all dragons. Why is Wallace getting so much hate? Plus Steven is a STEEL specialist who uses nothing but Steel and ROCK types. Brawly alone could kick his ass.

Anyways, Ruby focuses on expanding the land, where steel and stones are. Steven can be the Champion there.

Sapphire focuses on expanding the sea. Wallace can be the Champion there.

But since remakes usually take more from the 3rd version than the paired ones (Crystal, HG/SS) it'll probably go to the Emerald scenario with Wallace as Champion with Steven as a super-boss like Red.

If it's like that, then most of the battles in the entire game will be consisted of Water-types. Team Aqua specializes in Water-types. There are swimmers on almost every route that uses Water-types. Half the map is filled with Wingulls and Tentacools. The 8th gym has trainers and a leader using Water-types. And then a Water-type champion?

Isn't that too much water?

Well the planet Earth is 70% water. Not shocking to have an entire region that's 70% water. Especially considering Water-type is the most abundant.

For FR/LG, you should know that Pokemon BLUE was actually the third version in Japan, Yellow was a "Special" version or something like that. But, imo, the differences between Red, Green, and Blue are too little for us to know if FR/LG were in fact based off Red and Green, OR if they were based off Blue, the true third version.

For HG/SS (*Sigh*... We went through this before.)
First of all, HG/SS take the Ruins of Alph/Unown sub-plot from Crystal as well.
Second of all, OF COURSE "other than" the suicune plot they are the same as GS, because other than that plot HOW ELSE WAS CRYSTAL DIFFERENT FROM G/S? HG/SS were made AS SIMILAR as they could be to Crystal WHILE still having enough differences to justify remaining separate versions.

Sorry for the caps .

And should it be mentioned that HG/SS incorporated Yellow's walking Pokémon thing? :lol: LBR the third versions are never too different (except for Platinum) so there's obviously only going to be few things from Emerald in ORAS. But I better get my Weather Trio showdown in Sootopolis or I'll cut a bitch.

 

[Phoenixon]

But I better get my Weather Trio showdown in Sootopolis or I'll cut a bitch.

Honestly, that's the only thing I want ORAS to take from Emerald (that I actually care about), and it's the reason I made that argument that remakes are more similar to third versions in the first place. Other than that, I really don't care.

 

[Almonds]

Seriously? Iris and Lance are DRAGON masters. While not all of Lance's Pokémon were of that type, they were all dragons. Why is Wallace getting so much hate? Plus Steven is a STEEL specialist who uses nothing but Steel and ROCK types. Brawly alone could kick his ass.

Anyways, Ruby focuses on expanding the land, where steel and stones are. Steven can be the Champion there.

Sapphire focuses on expanding the sea. Wallace can be the Champion there.

But since remakes usually take more from the 3rd version than the paired ones (Crystal, HG/SS) it'll probably go to the Emerald scenario with Wallace as Champion with Steven as a super-boss like Red.

If it's like that, then most of the battles in the entire game will be consisted of Water-types. Team Aqua specializes in Water-types. There are swimmers on almost every route that uses Water-types. Half the map is filled with Wingulls and Tentacools. The 8th gym has trainers and a leader using Water-types. And then a Water-type champion?

Isn't that too much water?

Well the planet Earth is 70% water. Not shocking to have an entire region that's 70% water. Especially considering Water-type is the most abundant.

Why use an already overused type when they have the option to use a different type? Wouldn't it be boring to have to deal with Water 70% of the entire gameplay when we know full well there's 18 types of pokemon existing :/

There's already more than enough water. Steven as champion would be cool.

 

[Osprey]

It'll be Wally...

I'd like this. I miss the good old days when the Champion was also your rival.
I'd want Steven to be the Champion, but who I want and who it'll really be are 2 different things. I'm betting on Wallace, even though I'd prefer both Wally or Steven over that guy.

 

[Jolene]

What I hope they do is make Steven the Champion the first time you fight the Elite Four. After he is defeated he decides to retire and go rock hunting. Since you want to continue adventuring, Wallace takes his place as Champion is all subsequent fights against the Elite Four. He would be akin to your regent doing all the Champion duties while you selfishly explore the world. You can rematch Steven in Meteor Falls after some sort of post game side-quest like in Emerald.

It would be interesting to see the same character as a gym leader and Champion in the same game. I hope they do something like this.

 

[Dr. Buni]

Okay people are saying the remakes take from the third games but no they don't. FRLG for example don't follow Yellow, otherwise you would have a walking pikachu.

That is because Yellow isn't the third version, Blue is. The triad of Gen I are the Red, Green and Blue versions. Yellow was just a commemorative game.

Third version:

And yes, the remakes DO take a lot from third versions. That doesn't mean RS will incorporate the Emerald storyline, though, but it may happen.

 

[LavenderTownGhost]

OP, that's a really cool idea about Steven being the champion in Omega Ruby and Wallace being the champion in Alpha Sapphire. I'm definitely not opposed to that. It'd be a totally different route for Pokemon to take, but an exciting one.

If anything, I think Wallace will be the champion so that Steven can be the final battle at Meteor Falls.

 

[BigBadButterfree]

I think it would make more sense for Wallace to be champion in omega ruby and Steven in sapphire. Cuz if you're playing sapphire, assuming the plot stays the same, you'll have fought an evil team full of water types the whole game.

That said, I'd rather Steven just be the champ. I did like the idea of Wallace/Juan depending on version. But definitely Steven.

 

[Zeb]

Hopefully Steven, if only because he was the original and I found him to be more challenging than Wallace on the whole. I don't care too much, but I'm all for the idea that one is pre- and the other post-game though.

 

[LuxrayOfTheWild]

I say forget about Steven and Wallace as the Champion! Make it so you can battle them, but throw in a curve ball and make the champion MIROR B!!!!

 

[Fairy Ice Ricky]

Just a quick point: In the PWT, Juan is in the Gym Leader-related tournaments, while Steven and Wallace were in the Champion tournament.

So I'm gonna suggest we take this info from B2W2 (which was able to take something from Ruby, Sapphire, AND Emerald) and make Steven or Wallace the Champion depending on the version...

Wallace in Omega Ruby and Steven in Alpha Sapphire. You weren't expecting me to say that, weren't you?

 

[SammyW27]

I'm hoping for Steven. Shoot, I never understood why they replaced him in the first place :dizzy:. Plus, he has a mega-evolvable Pokémon, which helps his chances (unless, of course, one of Wallace's pokes gets a Mega-Evo)

Though has been suggested, maybe him and Wally could alternate with being champion in one version while the other is champ in another.

As was suggested again--they may even have someone else be champ for all we know...

 

[winstein]

Steven would be my pick. He's the Champion in the original, and I like the idea of Juan and Wallace being in the Sootopolis Gym in different versions. Their teams in both games are different, so I could see a slight change in their team (Whiscash is the only Pokemon they share). Maybe both of them have Milotic with different abilities, with Competitive for Juan and Marvel Scale for Wallace.

Thanks for reading.

 

[TheCapsFan]

I can see a brand-new champion taking the place of Wallace, tbh. But if you want me to choose between those two, I'd have to go with Steven, for reasons stated above. As much as I want these games to be Pokemon Emerald remakes, they aren't. They're Ruby and Sapphire remakes. So expect game-specific Aquas and Magmas too.

 

[Tyrfing]

Steven should be the champion, as he is stronger as a whole and I despise two specialists in the same region (Lance and Iris alike irritated me due to this). Besides, Wallace sucked. Steven was cool.

 

[Peppermint Phoenix]

Give Wallace a super demotion and have him be sootopilis' midboss and Juan be the gym leader.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I'd prefer Steven, but I think it would be Wallace.