Playerking
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When he dex'd it (which I think was immediately post-evo and before he commanded any moves) water shuriken was mentioned as Geckouga's movez.I was pretty surprised that Ash just knew Greninja had learned Water Shuriken without Greninja using it first or checking his Pokedex.
~Poor Team Rocket. They didn't deserve to be dispatched so unceremoniously like that. They literally got less than a minute of screen time. In that case, they probably shouldn't have been featured if the writers weren't even going to give them anything substantial to do.
Has there ever been another episode with so much simultaneous battling going on? It was amazing.
I get why they had Sanpei pair up with Ash against Heidayu but at the same time, Sanpei should've been fighting his own ninja. Besides I'm not upset with it because it should've just been Ash vs Heidayu.~Sanpei's Greninja, and by extension Sanpei himself, is a disgrace. It gets its ass kicked in every episode its been in so far. Every time!
I don't get this. Because couldn't all evolutions fall under the same logic of all plots being outlandish and stupid, and it honestly would be a subjective thing if you actually liked an episode.~The whole ninja plot seemed outlandish and stupid. It was merely a glorified device to evolve Ash's Frogadier.
Well for one we don't know what happened to them, as they are throwaway characters AKA not characters with names or unique designs.~Kagetomo and Heidayu get away scott free while Kagetomo's followers are all tied up and escorted out like felons? What happened to them anyway? Was Kagetomo's rampage on the village even warranted if his personal vendetta was solved in several minutes?
A Pokemon is evolving and making loud noises, you don't just keep battling until its over. I don't get why people had a problem with this, unless they don't like the fact that god forbid Frogadier evolving actually was the center of attention.~I'm happy Serena took initiative to battle the ninja alongside Clemont. In fact, the multitude of battles was well done-except for the awkward moment in which everyone stopped to watch Frogadier's evolution.
One, it was supposed to be brief, an indication that there will be a storyline arc in the future dedicated to it.~Ash-Greninja was very, very underwhelming. Not only was the transformation brief and totally random,
Well everyone does have the memory of a Goldfish (yes I know that's just a myth and stuff) but the problem, and legitimate concerns for the episode is that there was too much going on, to sit back and talk about it, and that the episode did NOT revolve around Frogadier/Greninja.but no one commented on it until after the fact! Wouldn't you discuss with Ash how his Greninja achieved the power of the Greninja of legend? I assume that Ash & his friends can talk about it later down the road, but it's still pretty odd.
I believe that's the joke, and from trying to see it from the perspective of the writer I would assume that Team Rocket would have been there trying to do what they did. However the episode has no time or place for them, so bye bye Team Rocket.~Poor Team Rocket. They didn't deserve to be dispatched so unceremoniously like that. They literally got less than a minute of screen time. In that case, they probably shouldn't have been featured if the writers weren't even going to give them anything substantial to do.
And Hilbert is right about the whole plot is stupid and outlandish. And it only functions to over-glorify Greninja evolution and the special form. No trial, no justification,
They didn't care and we're more fascinated by it than bitter.and a total slap on the face for the whole Ninja Village,
as someone who has absolutely zero knowledge in Ninjitsu is somehow the chosen one. IN YOUR FACE IPPEI! NIHEI! SANPEI! HA HA HA!
1. Frogadier's evolution into Greninja was justified, we've seen this same song and dance from before. Froakie's evolution, Monferno's evolution, Tranquill's evolution just to name a few that had very similar evolution to Frogadier.
2. Why do you think Ash Greninja only appeared briefly to give everyone a taste of it, especially the Ninja Village people, but so that there can be a future trial storyline arc. If Ash Greninja appeared battling against Wulfric, then the Ninja Village WON'T know about it. At least know this opens another future Ninja Village arc that will revolve around Ash Greninja.
They didn't care and we're more fascinated by it than bitter. Well 1. Nihei as far as we know doesn't even have a Greninja, so I'm not sure why he'd have a problem with it. And Nihei could easily have a mega Venusaur if he really wanted the power boost.
What a lot of people don't seem to understand about Ash Greninja is that it is blatantly a very very rare phenomenon.While I do expect the natural version of this that will likely be in the games (Synchro evolution) while it might appear in the anime more commonly. (JUST TO CLARIFY) I know Ash Greninja is anime only, that DOES NOT mean that Hero Greninja is anime only or Sychro Greninja.
I think the point is, that only SPECIAL Pokemon (anime wise) can synchro evolve with their trainer. We can see from Ash's Greninja backstory that Ash's Greninja is indeed more special than any other Pokemon.
This isn't just a random Froakie that Professor Sycamore handed out to trainers, but it had very different beginning than most if not all starter Pokemon. It's possible the way that Froakie came to be is what marked it to have this amazing form change in the future.
It's very obvious only special Pokemon can have these kinds of form changes. It's not an insult to anyone because it's not about just having this great bond with your Pokemon. Look I can see it being unfair, but you know that's just how the world works. There are people who are naturally inclined for many things that are talented in whatever subject they have a talent in, and I don't. But I don't blame other people for being naturally superior to me. So why blame Ash and his Greninja just because they are special and can have these kind of form changes.
There is a few problems.
1. Frogadier into Greninja is justified yes. BUT! Why at this timing? The evolution is basically shoved it just so that Ash-Greninja can make an appearance.
People kept saying that the trial will be afterwards, but that is where the problem is from. Ash-Greninja is something that is difficult to achieve, its a legend. Why Ash and Greninja gets to trigger it at the first place when it is NOT MASTERED? I mean how can you be THE Hero Greninja when you can't even fight like one????? This is the only reason I don't buy this explaination.
Yeah, they get things as long as its not related to Ninjitsu, the one thing that makes them any special in the anime.. totally legit.
Froakie is special, and I have been shown to be extremely pleased by that. Ash is no ordinary trainer, and I have been pleased with that. But Ash and Greninja being able to somehow sync with each other? I don't buy it. As I said before, Greninja cant be THE Hero Greninja when he can't fight like one, placing the trial afterward is frankly stupid. It is not a form that is achieved anymore, it is one that is born with Froakie and Ash just because they are special, and that defeats the whole purpose of even having a trial. The 'Oh dude, you are the chosen one, there is a trial ahead but you can handle it anyways just because you are the chosen one' is one of the WORST writing. Don't get me started on that. I'd take a 'Only the chosen one can pass the trial' anytime of the day.