Game Titles Officially Announced: Pokemon Black And White Versions!

[Lil Brother]

I gotta say, I love the new logos. The top half of a Pokéball's quite stylish.

I'm gonna be rather dissapointed if these get new names overseas. They're just colors; I'm all for political correctness, but that would be ridiculous. Yes, I consider the change of names of those Mega Man games ridiculous too.

Ooh, and hopefully all this about taking the series in new directions isn't just hype... we really need a push at this point.

Watch the third version be Pokemon Rainbow.

I'd buy that.

 

[Great Greninja]

I'm going to stop reading the forums 'cause i'm getting very confused with all the theories. My opinion is this:

If they are going to be on the DS they won't feel like 5th generation, they are going to be like 6th & 7th game of the fourth generation. The graphics always improve with each generation and so this one deserves to be on the 3DS because, if it is on the DS we will have another pt/hg/ss. "I'm glad that it is on the DS and not on the 3DS" why?? I know, I know, you don't want to spend 200€ on a new system but, sooner or later you are going to buy it so it doesn't really matter. Another theory, if it is on the DS, how do you think to trade pokemon, battle online and trade on the GTS? You couldn't do that cause D/P/Pt/HG/SS don't have programmed the new pokemon and the new items. So that is the main reason why I think that it deserves to be on the 3DS (and it will possibly be on it). And remember before March 2011 doesn't mean that is going to be released on February 28th 2011, and August 2010 doesn't mean that they can't delay the games. Adios!!:smokin:

 

[Rocky505]

i just hope the games arent in black and white (jk)

 

[VeggiePopper]

Although a white cartridge will look outstanding on its own. If they go back to colored cartridges (which I see unlikely, but why not have a little hope?), then I'll buy white version, no matter how cool black is.

 

[Battaman]

Are you Black or White?

I'm choosing White.

It doesn't matter if your black or whit:7up:Unless your MJ, then you gotta be both

 

[Absolute Zero]

If they are going to be on the DS they won't feel like 5th generation, they are going to be like 6th & 7th game of the fourth generation.

Gold and Silver were similar to red and blue in terms of graphics, they could be played on the same console.

The graphics always improve with each generation and so this one deserves to be on the 3DS because, if it is on the DS we will have another pt/hg/ss.

Graphics =/= Gameplay, I like how you didn't mention that it deserves to be on the 3DS so it can take advantage of the new gimmicks Nintendo will likely add and just focused on graphical improvments.

"I'm glad that it is on the DS and not on the 3DS" why?? I know, I know, you don't want to spend 200€ on a new system but, sooner or later you are going to buy it so it doesn't really matter.

Yes, a lot of people are glad its on the DS, because they don't want to waste more money on a console for one game when the DSi XL has just been released =.=. That and everyone has a DS, the DS has been hugely successful so I see no reason NOT to release the new gen games on what has already proven to be a solid handheld system.

Another theory, if it is on the DS, how do you think to trade pokemon, battle online and trade on the GTS? You couldn't do that cause D/P/Pt/HG/SS don't have programmed the new pokemon and the new items.

It will work like how it worked in G/S, before you staart a trade, if the game detects move non existent in the previous games then it will prevent you from trading them, same with Pokemon.

So that is the main reason why I think that it deserves to be on the 3DS (and it will possibly be on it). And remember before March 2011 doesn't mean that is going to be released on February 28th 2011, and August 2010 doesn't mean that they can't delay the games. Adios!!:smokin:

I lol'ed, the main site says it is going to be on the DS, if the games were gonna be delayed for the 3DS we would have found out already, that and if it was meant to be on the new console they wouldn't have said the DS =.=.

 

[Great Greninja]

Gold and Silver were similar to red and blue in terms of graphics, they could be played on the same console.



Graphics =/= Gameplay, I like how you didn't mention that it deserves to be on the 3DS so it can take advantage of the new gimmicks Nintendo will likely add and just focused on graphical improvments.



Yes, a lot of people are glad its on the DS, because they don't want to waste more money on a console for one game when the DSi XL has just been released =.=. That and everyone has a DS, the DS has been hugely successful so I see no reason NOT to release the new gen games on what has already proven to be a solid handheld system.



It will work like how it worked in G/S, before you staart a trade, if the game detects move non existent in the previous games then it will prevent you from trading them, same with Pokemon.



I lol'ed, the main site says it is going to be on the DS, if the games were gonna be delayed for the 3DS we would have found out already, that and if it was meant to be on the new console they wouldn't have said the DS =.=.

OK, that's true, but I still can't see how the graphics/gameplay can improve more than the ones from Pt/HGSS

 

[Absolute Zero]

OK, that's true, but I still can't see how the graphics/gameplay can improve more than the ones from Pt/HGSS

Platinum, in terms of graphics, was an improvement over DP (better textures etc). HG/SS was an improvement over Platinum in terms of graphics also. It won't be hard improving the graphics for this game and even if they are the same, the graphics for Platinum and HG/SS aren't bad.

 

[Great Greninja]

Platinum, in terms of graphics, was an improvement over DP (better textures etc). HG/SS was an improvement over Platinum in terms of graphics also. Even if they are the same, the graphics for Platinum and HG/SS aren't bad.

But considering the difference between the third and fourth generation I can't see that the DS is capable of doing much better for pokemon than the graphics of the fourth generation (maybe something like animal crossing?)

 

[GreatLiver]

So what's this mean for third versions? Gray? Brown? Clear? Rainbow? Yeah, probably that.

 

[fate]

Don't think the names will change here, I realize the US is super politically correct and all, but Black and White... well, chess, checkers, go, various board games use the black/white scheme. Also, there's a PC game named "Black and White"

Also, graphics? Who cares? Ya'll been spoiled, Pokemon has never been state of the art. Where it is right now however is fine, especially in HGSS. The only possible place that could be improved is more sprite animation in battles, which is something the DS is more than capable of doing.

And yeah, new logo is great! BUT, I have a feeling it will dropped here in favor of the standard Pokemon font, which I have to admit, I never did like.

 

[VeggiePopper]

And yeah, new logo is great! BUT, I have a feeling it will dropped here in favor of the standard Pokemon font, which I have to admit, I never did like.

I too hope we'll get a new logo for this generation. But unlike you, I do think we might get it, as already HGSS gave us a different font. While the overall Pokémon logo won't change, I expect the "X-Version" font will.

 

[TM2-Megatron]

Is that so? From Junichi Masuda's blog

I don't see any mention of the Iraq War on there, or any other specific conflict. That was the only aspect if Ryu Shoji's post that I questioned. I simply doubted that a war the Japanese don't have much vested interest in, and probably don't fully understand what a major effect its had on the American psyche, factored into his decision.

The fact that Earth is a noticeably violent world, if you turn on the news? Sure, I can see that; and that's how his blog reads, IMO. "A world of conflicts", indeed, because there always seem to be several conflicts going on at the same time.

Ironically, of course, LeafGreen and FireRed are still kind of opposing, to my way of thinking. But there is no conflict in that case, since Fire merely has to touch leaves to wipe them out. Water and Fire, on the other hand, strike more of a balance.

 

[VeggiePopper]

I don't see any mention of the Iraq War on there, or any other specific conflict. That was the only aspect if Ryu Shoji's post that I questioned. I simply doubted that a war the Japanese don't have much vested interest in, and probably don't fully understand what a major effect its had on the American psyche, factored into his decision.

The fact that Earth is a noticeably violent world, if you turn on the news? Sure, I can see that; and that's how his blog reads, IMO. "A world of conflicts", indeed, because there always seem to be several conflicts going on at the same time.

Ironically, of course, LeafGreen and FireRed are still kind of opposing, to my way of thinking. But there is no conflict in that case, since Fire merely has to touch leaves to wipe them out. Water and Fire, on the other hand, strike more of a balance.

Maybe the logic behind it is that when one thinks of fire and water the first thing one instantly gets in their mind is "Water puts down fire", whereas if you're given the fire and leaf concepts, it takes more to think of a fire destroying a forest, so people feels less related to that particular conflict conflict.

 

[TM2-Megatron]

Well it was a cert that this would be on DS given that the 3DS is supposed to be released before March 2011, meaing its coming possibly later than these games are.

But in the real world, where it's silly to release a major product like this in the first quarter of the year, the fact is the 3DS will probably come out no more than a month or two after Pokemon Black & White. I'd guess late October or November, myself. You can't beat the holiday shopping season.

Won't look good at all when the brand-new system comes out 1.5 to 2 months after these games.

2. the 3DS does not release until March 2011. These games release August 2010.

3. Pokemon has NEVER been a launch title

2. Read the press release again... the 3DS is "to be released by the end of the fiscal year, ending March 2011". This means anytime from right now to next March. As I said before, the most likely release period is October or November, this year.

3. Nope; but it surely would've been cool had it been. Now we have Generation V beginning its life on a handheld which will be replaced no more than a few months after its release... and yeah, while DSi's and XL's will still be sold, for a period of time (though I dunno who'd be dumb enough to buy them when they'll probably be able to get a 3DS for maybe $50 more) these games will still look like crap next time 3DS titles.

 

[AbbyNormal]

I'm surprisingly ok with the new "shade generation". (Props to whoever first posted that).

But I do wanna point out that the games have ALWAYS focused on good vs evil/ light vs dark, etc. Cyrus wanting to destroy the world, anyone?

Anywho, it's not like Nintendo can really color-code the cartridges like they used to. They pretty much HAVE to work with black/white/grey.

 

[Netto Azure]

It doesn't matter if your black or white :7up: Unless your MJ, then you gotta be both

I was joking. XD

But yeah choosing white cuz of it's relative double meanings in various cultures.

 

[Umeko]

Some things I saw asked/mentioned while catching up that I didn't see properly answered/commented on:

It also might be noteworthy that they decided to use the harsher 'wh' sound for "White" when they transliterated - it may be a deliberate effect to make both names sound somewhat harsh.

"White" is always transliterated that way into katakana. Likewise, "what" becomes "howatto," "why" becomes "howai," etc. etc. It's just the way the transliteration works. So no, it's nothing special or noteworthy, sorry. D:

On a serious note, do the Japanese even use "white" and "black" like we do to identify race?

To be honest, I'm surprised Game Freak chose Black and White...not only because of the race implications,

I doubt it's anywhere near as big an issue in Japan, as the vast majority of their population is of asian descent. Honestly, though, I don't see this being a problem in other markets either; not even the US, arguably one of the most over-sensitive countries to racial issues like this.

Actually, they do refer to white people (and I'm sorry, I'm going to go with "white" and "black" because there are just too many factors and exceptions for me to feel that "Caucasian" and "African-American" or whatever are appropriate or even less offensive) as "hakujin" (lit. "white people") and black people as "kokujin" (lit. "black people"). I think at least most of them are aware that such racial sensitivity exists in the US, but it's certainly not the first thing they think of when they see the color names on their own. As an example, I mentioned on my twitter today about how the English fandom was instantly making those connections, and the response from my Japanese followers was along the lines of, "oh right, there is that connotation, isn't there... huh."


Anyway, as for which version I'll be choosing, most definitely White - I don't even care what the version mascot or Pokemon availability ends up as, white is one of my absolute favorite colors (trailing slightly behind pink). :3!!!

(in b4(/after/during?) "WHITE ISN'T A COLOR!!!")

 

[Absolute Zero]

WHITE ISN'T A COLOR :argue:

lol I am getting Black cause black. :7up:

 

[Great Greninja]

-In Japanese culture, kuro (black) is a symbol of nobility, age, and experience, as opposed to shiro (white), which symbolizes serfdom, youth, and naiveté.-

From wikipedia.

Maybe the Pokemon Black is located in future and Pokemon White in the past (or vice versa) and the 3rd version is in the middle.