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Review BW010: Rival Battle! The Strong Opponent Pururill!

But even if Shooti is a new trainer, that's really not the reason why I'm complaining...He's just...not that cool. idk.

This. Pretty much summed up my thoughts about Shooti. I don't care if Ash lost to him even if he is a new trainer, he'll win eventually. But yeah, I just don't like his smugness. Paul plays the jerk role much better imo, and with much more epicness I might add :-D

Still, we haven't seen the last of Shooti so maybe he'll be more likable as a rival in the future. We'll see.

As for the battle itself...shame Mijumaru and Pokabu succumbed to the Super Luck of Hatooboo. But Pikachu and Tsutarja were awesome. You know what Ash should do...enter Mamepato in a pokeringer competition against Shooti. That's like an guaranteed win and evolution lol.
 
Good episode, but...
Why does Tsutarja know Leaf Storm and Leaf Blade already? I'm not complaining but, its only been ten episodes....
Also, Pokabu should really learn Flamethrower soon - Ember is getting annoying
 
Good episode, but...
Why does Tsutarja know Leaf Storm and Leaf Blade already? I'm not complaining but, its only been ten episodes....
Also, Pokabu should really learn Flamethrower soon - Ember is getting annoying

Nitro Charge is Pokabu's Grass Mixer and Shell Blade. It should learn that next, imo. We've seen Shell Blade used by a Futatchimaru and Mijumaru already, along with Grass Mixer from Tsutarja and Janovy. Why are they holding out on Nitro Charge?
 
Poor Shooti. :[ I actually really like him, but that's probably just because I think he's adorable. I admit that his character itself is nothing special yet.

Cool ep, though. I guess.
 
I think you are mistaken. I re-watched the battle to see if I could catch it but never heard it. May I ask in what scene it starts to play?
After the scene with flying Rockets ends and Ash commands Pikachu. Too much screaming and sounds, yes, but I really thought I heard an intro to *link removed*

although I do think it would be interesting if they had a rival group as opposed to simply a single rival.
Cheren and Bel? :)
 
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Leaf Storm, Leaf Blade, Vine Whip, and Attract? Getting a little over powered aren't we Tsutarja. I don't see Attract leaving since that's one of the factors centering around Tsutarja's capture. Vine Whip has many uses outside of battle Bulbasaur demonstrated this a lot. Leaf Storm and Leaf Blade are powerful attacks I don't see them goin' anywhere,Sceptile had Leaf Blade and Leaf Storm is Torterra's, and there powerful I can't see them leavin'.
 
Nitro Charge is Pokabu's Grass Mixer and Shell Blade. It should learn that next, imo. We've seen Shell Blade used by a Futatchimaru and Mijumaru already, along with Grass Mixer from Tsutarja and Janovy. Why are they holding out on Nitro Charge?

You mean Heat Stamp

unlike Grass Mixer and Shell Blade

only the Pokabu family can learn it

hell, more pokes learn Nitro Charge then the ones that learn Shell Blade and Grass Mixer (because Nitro Charge is a Tm)
 
You guys do know that Pikachu didn't even start to suffer the side effects of volt tackle until late sinnoh (the battle with Paul I think it was) right?

that's not the reason he's losing



and the shipping begins

even though i said that earlier i'm not an iris/shooti shipper.
 
Ugh, when Shooti was walking out of the stadium, he walked exactly like Paul does.

I could of sworn I was looking at Paul with lighter hair and slightly different clothes from behind.

Why are the writers doing a Paul clone, just without what made Paul interesting?
 
Good episode, but...
Why does Tsutarja know Leaf Storm and Leaf Blade already? I'm not complaining but, its only been ten episodes....
Also, Pokabu should really learn Flamethrower soon - Ember is getting annoying

I prefer ember, not many Pokemon of Ash's actually had that since Cyndaquil knew flamethrower straight of the bat, Torkoal I don't think can learn ember. And Paul trained Chimchar hard and it learned flamethrower before Ash had a chance to use it. So ember is actually a nice change of pace, because flamethrower was really getting annoying even if it is crazy powerful in the games.

But yes, seriously unless they intent to evolve Pokabu soon and have it learn something from that, I don't see the point in giving Pokabu only two moves, it really does seem like the weakest Pokemon because of that.

And I sure hope they don't cut out training and slap on a move, like the Pokemon already had it, like what's been happening lately in Best Wishes.
 
Only decent episodes so far are episodes seven and eight. I know it's only ten episodes in but this is by far the worst season, compared to the previous ones.

Having Ash lose every time kind of sucks, especially to a beginner. AND when he actually wins, it is always his last pokemon standing. Ash should call up Infernape and beat the heck out of Shooti. Maybe next time, Ash should get a female rival. That would be more interesting than Shooti (=Paul, not a beginner trainer).

I don't want to lose faith on this since it is only ten episodes in... But I am hoping it gets better.
 
To me I liked this episode because of the fact that Ash lost. Now if Ash lost to Shooti by the end of BW then that's a different story. Since the beginning of BW, I expected Ash to lose a lot along with having a weak team since I wouldn't really want him to be powerful at the start. It wouldn't seem interesting to me. I just want to see Ash improve and grow stronger than those he had lost to. Like Paul, it's better to see Shooti end up feeling ashamed once Ash one day might beat him.

Ash lost to Shooti who is considered a beginner and in the Anime, Pokemon battles are shown differently than what it's like in games. We aren't able to tell our Pokemon to dodge attacks or grab onto bird legs so sometimes a Pokemon might look weaker but it has its advantages. :p
 
I don't see why some of you are complaining. This is the tenth episode of the series. Would rather Shooti curbstomp Ash now or right after the seventh gym which there is no realistic chance of closing the gap?
 
Ugh, when Shooti was walking out of the stadium, he walked exactly like Paul does.

I could of sworn I was looking at Paul with lighter hair and slightly different clothes from behind.

Why are the writers doing a Paul clone, just without what made Paul interesting?
Oh yeah, because Paul totally smiled a lot throughout his Ash's battle just like Shooty did. And he always acted smug and taunted Ash.

Seriously. Stop comparing Shooty with Paul. The former is NOT a clone of the latter. The only similarities they have is their kind of similar hair style (it's not completely similar) and how they walk, but those aren't even important. Now yes, they're both silent individuals, but when they talk to someone they respect or know are worthy it's different, Shooty is more polite than Paul was, even smiling when he was talking to Professor Araragi. Also the reactions to Ash was different. Paul used to frown at him, calling him pathetic, while Shooty would usually smile in a smug way and taunt him.

Also, as I pointed, out Shooty smiled a lot throughout the battle. And it was a normal smile. Meanwhile Paul would hardly smile, and if he did (back when he was being a jerk to Ash) it be a grimace. Paul smiled normally to Ash when he finally respected him as a worthy opponent, but even then he would hardly do it as much as Shooty did which was a lot.

You're better of comparing Shooty with Gary or Drew. His attitude his somewhat similar to theirs. And even so that doesn't make Shooty a carbon copy of them either. As you can see both Gary and Drew use to act like smug pricks and nobody said they were a clone of each other. But to compare Shooty with Paul, you're just wasting your time. Basically you are comparing apples and oranges.
 
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This is just the 10th episode, and he's already lost twice. I hope he doesn't have one long win streak against Ash, only for Ash to only beat him in the league. That would get annoying.

Seriosuly if I were Ash I would just use some of my older Pokemon to put him in his place. But, no the writers wouldn't ever do that. That would make Ash seem stronger than his main rival.So he has to get "stronger" to beat them. When he could do it right now if he just used reserves.

Woohoo! About another 4 years until Ash beats Shooti.
 
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Seriously. Stop comparing Shooty with Paul. The former is NOT a clone of the latter. The only similarities they have is their kind of similar hair style (it's not completely similar) and how they walk, but those aren't even important.

You're better of comparing Shooty with Gary or Drew. His attitude his somewhat similar to theirs. And even so that doesn't make Shooty a carbon copy of them either. As you can see both Gary and Drew use to act like smug pricks and nobody said they were a clone of each other. But to compare Shooty with Paul, you're just wasting your time. Basically you are comparing apples and oranges.

Shooti is a rehash of Paul, I don't see how you can say otherwise.

Sure he's a bit more cocky/friendly, but that's it.
 
Shooti is a rehash of Paul, I don't see how you can say otherwise.

Sure he's a bit more cocky/friendly, but that's it.

I feel like I should just explode right now, but I think I already said quite enough about this in my blog...

No. I haven't.

I'll admit that when I first saw Shooti, you might as well have put Paul in a wig and contacts. But no...this guy isn't even comparable to him.

What made Paul interesting was his "cockiness." Shooti definitely has that, but he employs it differently, and Ash reacts differently, which makes their relationship quite dull and non-spontaneous.

Paul was stoic to a fault; if fans didn't like him for it, they could parody it. He could instill two emotions: Rage from the fans for being a jerkass or praise for being badass.

Shooti has the "meh" feeling...nothing makes me hate his guts and nothing says that he's the coolest mofo in the world.

Ugh, I think I'll just stop now. I hope I'm proven dead wrong in the future.
 
I think what also made an interest in Paul at the start, is he was shown to be the first trainer to release a Pokemon simply because it was, "weak."

He was really the first character to ever release one of his Pokemon simply because he thought it was weak or pathetic. That's what people found interesting originally, then we saw him in Roark's Gym and how strong he was...then of course once the Cynthia and Chimchar plot started, that's when Paul became even more interesting.
 
I should have known I'd be wasting my time with Scott. I'll just say this:

Shooty and Paul have completely different personalities. End of discussion.
 
I should have known I'd be wasting my time with Scott. I'll just say this:

Shooty and Paul have completely different personalities. End of discussion.

This really.

I swear people are looking WAY too much into this. Shuuti is more like Shigeru than Shinji.
 
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