Preview BW056 - Iris & Monozu

[Hellion]

So, Iris stayed out the whole night just to get Monozu's attention? Despite struggling all day to do it? Wow, she's defiantly putting a lot of blood, sweat, and tears into helping the dragon.

Is that struggle though? It would be if the writers showing a flaw in Iris' approach. Something to work on, something to learn, but actually it seems like the writers are doing the opposite. Iris is shown to do nothing really but standing there and the Deino magically overcomes his shyness and fears because Iris' radiant sainthood apparantly cures all woes and by just standing there pokémon will naturally gravitate towards her and have their ailments cured! But... nowhere do we see Iris, her character, her methods actually being the problem, nor do we seem to see anything seemingly learned by her, which in turn makes the emotion kinda hollow since Iris doesn't really seem to have to earn this Deino's affection by coming about a realization about herself, or learning some knowledge about Dragon.

I find it a little unbelievable that apparantly Bobby has never decided to just wait it out since that's apparantly all it took to get Deino to come around, but then again, he's only a character whose job it is to take care of pokémon and raise them, so it's perfectly logical that he should fail where a 10 years old girl who doesn't do jack about training her own pokémon suddenly succeeds in one night where he failed before... cause she's such a special snowflake apparantly.[/sarcasm]

 

[Musashi]

ポケットモンスターＢＷ「アイリスとモノズ！育て屋修行！！」: 週間番組表 : 番組情報 : テレビ東京

And the Rockets make their return along with Seger. I'm guessing Tomioka will throw them in in the last 30 seconds or so.

Nothing else we don't already know.

 

[Cybersai]

Well I guess they have to start building up to the Kami trio eps. I assume they'll do the same in the next 2 eps then.

 

[Ampharos King]

It will probably be the same old dribble that we have been dealing with from TRio in their past two story arcs; having them report to Professor Seger that they are close to reaching their objective and arriving at the destination where their operation will take place. Hopefully we get a little briefing on their mission itself, especially since it does involve legendary pokemon, but I am not expecting anything more than 30 seconds from their little buildup here.

 

[Sweet Veil]

Is that struggle though? It would be if the writers showing a flaw in Iris' approach. Something to work on, something to learn, but actually it seems like the writers are doing the opposite. Iris is shown to do nothing really but standing there and the Deino magically overcomes his shyness and fears because Iris' radiant sainthood apparantly cures all woes and by just standing there pokémon will naturally gravitate towards her and have their ailments cured! But... nowhere do we see Iris, her character, her methods actually being the problem, nor do we seem to see anything seemingly learned by her, which in turn makes the emotion kinda hollow since Iris doesn't really seem to have to earn this Deino's affection by coming about a realization about herself, or learning some knowledge about Dragon.

I find it a little unbelievable that apparantly Bobby has never decided to just wait it out since that's apparantly all it took to get Deino to come around, but then again, he's only a character whose job it is to take care of pokémon and raise them, so it's perfectly logical that he should fail where a 10 years old girl who doesn't do jack about training her own pokémon suddenly succeeds in one night where he failed before... cause she's such a special snowflake apparantly.[/sarcasm]

Iris did, and that's my point. We see how far Iris is willing to go to help Monozu. She's endearing in this situation, she's the hero. Nope, Iris is trying hard and failing at first to get Monozu's attention, she continues forward all day in hopes of helping it and at night Monozu seems to come around. You also seem to be ignoring the fact that Iris also is showing Monozu a good time and trying to be it's friend, she even took Monozu to go do her favorite past time, vine swinging. ...If that's how you really see it, then there's nothing to be done about it, anyway. But, regardless Iris is trying to understand the Pokemon, and get it's attention and she's putting a lot of heart into it. That's a relatable situation in my boo.

 

[Hellion]

We see how far Iris is willing to go to help Monozu. She's endearing in this situation, she's the hero. Iris is trying hard and failing at first to get Monozu's attention, she continues forward all day in hopes of helping it and at night Monozu seems to come around.

I'm well aware that Iris isn't instantly getting Monozu over its shyness, but I wouldn't say that it translates as Iris struggling as the reason why Monozu isn't coming around isn't Iris; she's not the problem here. She doesn't appear to learn anything, quite the contrary she succeeds in less than a day where someone whose job it is to raise pokémon, connecting with them in the process, failed horribly. Her methods, her skills, her knowledge don't appear to be put into question, and the Monozu comes around when he realizes how much of a pure, kind and saintlike soul Iris has. There's no flaw here, no failure on Iris' part, no real struggle... all in all, it just doesn't make Iris seem human and relatable in my opinion.

Based on what we've seen and what we know of this episode, it seems, once again, that Iris episodes aren't about developing her, but unjustly glorifying her.

You also seem to be ignoring the fact that Iris also is showing Monozu a good time and trying to be it's friend, she even took Monozu to go do her favorite past time, vine swinging.

I wasn't ignoring it, but that comes after Monozu's complete 180 personality wise though. The only thing we can deduce from that is that it seems that Monozu is gonna come around in the first half of the episode, once again highlighting the fact that there's no real struggle and Iris solves Monozu's problem very easily.

 

[Cybersai]

Iris likely isn't keeping the Deino anyway so its not a big deal. We haven't had an Iris episode in....forever. I think the last time she really did anything was the final ep of the Don battle tournament.

 

[Ishida]

Iris likely isn't keeping the Deino anyway so its not a big deal. We haven't had an Iris episode in....forever. I think the last time she really did anything was the final ep of the Don battle tournament.

Stop acting like you know when a character is going to keep a Pokemon or when they're not because you don't you don't write the anime. I just want this episode to air so all of this will come to an end.

Seriously don't take this to offense, but this is a children's show why do people put so much thought into the smallest things it's just silly.

 

[Cybersai]

Seriously don't take this to offense, but this is a children's show why do people put so much thought into the smallest things it's just silly.

We're speculating about the possibility of a non-capture, given that its owned by another trainer and all signs in the preview point to nothing really happening.

 

[Moe]

I expect the episode to end with Iris being handed a Pokeball.

 

[djulienr]

I'm on TV Tokyo channel, on the Keyhole thing I just learned how to use. Am I doing it wrong? Because Pokemon isnt on and its 7pm in Japan rite now right?

 

[Ishida]

We're speculating about the possibility of a non-capture, given that its owned by another trainer and all signs in the preview point to nothing really happening.

I still don't see what your point is, when Cilan caught Stunfisk the preview didn't show any signs of him catching it he didn't even interact with it. At least Iris is actually interacting with it

 

[Moe]

I'm on TV Tokyo channel, on the Keyhole thing I just learned how to use. Am I doing it wrong? Because Pokemon isnt on and its 7pm in Japan rite now right?

Was discussed a few pages back,

Not much to clarify, really. It says "airs 11/17", then the note says "the 11/17 episode might be <held off/postponed/however you'd prefer to translate it> due to a Japan Series broadcast."

Perfectly standard note warning about a not-entirely-definite sports broadcast getting this time slot if it ends up happening. I have no clue what's supposed to be "ironic".

Baseball pre-emption of regular programming means no Pokemon.

 

[Pidgeot]

Wow. I was looking forward to seeing if Iris caught the Deino or not. It's a shame Bulbapedia, Serebii.net, etc. weren't very accurate with the dates.

 

[Hellion]

@NintendoGamer They were accurate. Today was the original airdate, but the airing of the episode was post-poned at the last minute due to a baseball game, much like what can happen during the World Series in the States.

 

[Itsuki]

I was honestly curious about what happened, myself. D:

This means all the episodes after that are ALSO delayed a week, doesn't it.

*murderous grin* ....8D

 

[Pidgeot]

@NintendoGamer They were accurate. Today was the original airdate, but the airing of the episode was post-poned at the last minute due to a baseball game, much like what can happen during the World Series in the States.

Oh. But if it was here in the UK, they would just show the episode after the end of the match. It wouldn't be a baseball game, though.

 

[H.M]

Baseball and hour-long Naruto specials: Pokemon's nemeses.

I was really looking foward to this episode, too. This means *every* known episode after the Gothita one is pushed back a week. Dammit. ;_;

 

[Cybersai]

Don't they usually do double-airings to make up for things like this?

 

[Pidgeot]

Baseball and hour-long Naruto specials: Pokemon's nemeses.

I was really looking foward to this episode, too. This means *every* known episode after the Gothita one is pushed back a week. Dammit. ;_;

Plus, add the Christmas break for more fun.

Don't they usually do double-airings to make up for things like this?

They also do breaks to make up for double-bills as well.