Isshu

[Venator]

Yay! Discussion with Figment interrupted by person who takes two sentences out of my post and tries to use them against me! Just what I always wanted!

/sarcasm

Is there really any part of the Pacific NW that looks like it could be the base of Isshu? I think not. So what if the Pacific NW has forest all over? It has no bearing on the current discussion because there is no resemblance to Isshu in any way, shape or form.

 

[Matt3225]

Is there really any part of the Pacific NW that looks like it could be the base of Isshu? I think not. So what if the Pacific NW has forest all over? It has no bearing on the current discussion because there is no resemblance to Isshu.

The fact is Aomori doesn't look like Isshu either. The coastline doesn't match. If there's one thing that every region so far has in common is that their coastline matched with its real world counterpart. Just saying that there are forests isn't much of an arguement as a big portion of the world is covered in forests

 

[The Outrage]

Just putting this out there, but does the region Hoenn is based on have a both an active volcano and an inactive one, along with a dessert and a tropical rain forest, as well as deep trenches?

 

[Archaic]

Just going back to the region map for a second...

Spoiler

I think we may have misunderstood the area on the map above Hiun city. That doesn't look like just a desert to me. A road that's partially obscured under sand, what appears to be blackened buildings...that looks to me like a wasteland with ruins, the remains of some catastrophe.

 

[Falconwing]

Just putting this out there, but does the region Hoenn is based on have a both an active volcano and an inactive one, along with a dessert and a tropical rain forest, as well as deep trenches?

no, it does not.

EDIT: Yeah, I noticed the buildings when it was first announced. I think my first post on it actually called it a wasteland.

DOUBLE EDIT: Where are you guys getting such an enhanced image?

 

[Rayne]

Just going back to the region map for a second...

Spoiler

I think we may have misunderstood the area on the map above Hiun city. That doesn't look like just a desert to me. A road that's partially obscured under sand, what appears to be blackened buildings...that looks to me like a wasteland with ruins, the remains of some catastrophe.

:/ That's what I've been saying. Ryu and others have touted it around as well.

 

[The Outrage]

I agree with Archaic about it possibly not being a desert, but now I'm more intrigued with that cave on the mountain in the west. Thre's two caves, but one has a weird door on it.

 

[Fig]

Yay! Discussion with Figment interrupted by person who takes two sentences out of my post and tries to use them against me! Just what I always wanted!

/sarcasm

Is there really any part of the Pacific NW that looks like it could be the base of Isshu? I think not. So what if the Pacific NW has forest all over? It has no bearing on the current discussion because there is no resemblance to Isshu in any way, shape or form.

You realize that while "Pacific Northwest" is a US region, just north of it, and with much the same landscape and vegetation is a city called...

...Vancouver. Right?

And yeah, post-catastrophe wasteland looks very strong.

In which case, of course, Ground Zero kind of leap to mind.

(BTW, for the amusement park - there's no actual amusement park in that part of New York City...but guess which multinational corporations is headquartered in exactly that part of New York? Six Flags, that's who)

 

[Venator]

You realize that while "Pacific Northwest" is a US region, just north of it, and with much the same landscape and vegetation is a city called...

...Vancouver. Right?

Truthfully Figment, I thought Vancouver was near the great lakes. Heh-heh...my bad. :dumb:
I have a horrible time if I don't have a full map...

Well, sorry about that mistake. My bad. Totally. (Yes I did look up Vancouver on Wikipedia. The map there looked like it was part of the great lakes. I really ignored that big green blob on the map too)

Penalty for Venator.

Anyways...what about Aomori being nearly drenched with forests like Isshu? Doesn't that give it more of a chance?

 

[Lia]

I think we may have misunderstood the area on the map above Hiun city. That doesn't look like just a desert to me. A road that's partially obscured under sand, what appears to be blackened buildings...that looks to me like a wasteland with ruins, the remains of some catastrophe.

:/ That's what I've been saying as well as one or two others and Ryu.

I'd earlier alternated between wasteland and desert, but have leaned towards desert if only for the fact that having something so bombed out looking next to something resembling NYC financial district-- there's room for unfavorable comparisons to 9/11. As an adult I can see and understand the difference. But a child? Some of those 'overprotective' parents? It would be a fine balance GF would thread.


But.. where did you get this image from!?

 

[Fig]

Ventaor - not much of one, to be honest. Forests are the natural landscape to put on the map when you take away cities.

And what is more likely: that they took a region with lots of forests (Which they haven't shown us at all), and added a big city (which has been the selling point), or that they wanted a region themed around one big central city to begin with?

Probably, if you consider terrain, Tohoku's case improves a little...but a little as in trailing 15 points behind the rest, instead of 20 points behind the rest as it is now. Not a little as in enough to make it a serious contender.

Lia - if this is New York City and a wasteland, then it isn't "room for unfavorable comparizon to 9/11". It's "Clear 9/11 inspiration for everyone to see".

 

[Falconwing]

While a pacific northwest region would be kick ass, I'm afraid Isshu is not that.

 

[Rayne]

(BTW, for the amusement park - there's no actual amusement park in that part of New York City...but guess which multinational corporations is headquartered in exactly that part of New York? Six Flags, that's who)

Actually adding to that, the 'amusement park' at Times Square could be argued for given both areas are tourist magnets. The Toys R Us in Times Square even has a gigantic indoor Ferris wheel. It's certainly stretching it a bit to fit that particular Isshu location, but the comparisons can be justified.

 

[Lia]

Lia - if this is New York City and a wasteland, then it isn't "room for unfavorable comparizon to 9/11". It's "Clear 9/11 inspiration for everyone to see".

I was being polite about it. :blush:


Onto the new map-- almost looks like old windmills in the upper left on the terraces. The kind used for agriculture instead of the modern wind power turbines.

 

[Falconwing]

Incidentally, that same Toys R Us gave Nintendo its own corner of the store.

 

[Zeta]

Theory: The Gyms are now castles in Isshu.

Not all of the gyms will be paired with a town. I spy at least 5 different castles. 3 more in areas covered with clouds and you have the 8 needed for a Gym collection. Alternatively, there are smaller towns inside each of the castles, ala Zelda/Medieval Europe. See Pokemon Card Gameboy for a similar idea.

 

[Falconwing]

Gym castles? Sounds pretty cool.

 

[63cohen]

Gym castles? Sounds pretty cool.

Is that who I think it is in your avatar (True Blood??)

I do not like the idea of gym castles.

 

[Fig]

Incidentally, that same Toys R Us gave Nintendo its own corner of the store.

Or how about Nintendo's "Own Corner" of the Rockerfeller center, formerly known as Pokemon Center New York?

 

[Lia]

Theory: The Gyms are now castles in Isshu.

Not all of the gyms will be paired with a town. I spy at least 5 different castles. 3 more in areas covered with clouds and you have the 8 needed for a Gym collection. Alternatively, there are smaller towns inside each of the castles, ala Zelda/Medieval Europe. See Pokemon Card Gameboy for a similar idea.

*suddenly has a vision of Imakuni? appearing in B/W*

I think it'd be more interesting if there was a type of tourney in each castle you'd have to win before progressing to the gym leader or to advance the plot. Not just mowing down trainers in a row.

I'm more curious what lies under all that verdant greenery however, there's openings into them. Forest canopies hiding towns that eschew the city lifestyle? Because outside of the solitary houses scattered about, the only discernible place to live would be Hiun City. Or are they giant forests where you get jumped by trainers, bugs, or heaven forbid zubats, every three steps?