Review BW027: The Road to Become a Dragon Master! Kibago VS Crimgan!!

[MarshiyanMisutaa]

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So did this feel like an Iris episode at all?

Yes it is. We hardly see other characters and COTD was the blandest character in BW. Iris was the only focused character in this episode.

 

[Cybersai]

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I only caught the second half, but I wasn't too enthusiastic about what I saw. Even if they did put up a good fight, it just felt like they were using Team Rocket as a crutch again imo. Serious or not, them capturing a pokemon, flying off, crashing and then getting beaten by the gang still feels as paint-by-numbers as ever.
I dunno. Maybe I'm just being too critical and need to watch the whole thing once more.

This is the first time TR attacked the twerps since...BW6? I don't see what the complaining is about, they're still not appearing in every episode and this is the first time they attempted to attack the twerps since the beginning of BW.

 

[Grave-E]

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This is the first time TR attacked the twerps since...BW6? I don't see what the complaining is about, they're still not appearing in every episode and this is the first time they attempted to attack the twerps since the beginning of BW.

...so? Just because they don't pull this stuff off frequently anymore, doesn't suddenly make it better when it does happen.

 

[Cybersai]

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...so? Just because they don't pull this stuff off frequently anymore, doesn't suddenly make it better when it does happen.

This sounds like a cranky complaint. You sure you're not outgrowing the series, Gravy?

 

[Hassel]

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I thought the plot of this episode was overdone too. It really didn't stand out at all.

 

[Hellion]

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We hardly see other characters

Except for Satoshi training Zuruggu, fighting Crimgan and Team Rocket...

COTD was the blandest character in BW. Iris was the only focused character in this episode.

Agreed on both counts.

Anyway, saw the episode, here's for impressions

Good Points

+ Some Zuruggu action
+ CRIMGAN!
+ Team Rocket being serious and still badass
+ Team Rocket's pokémon fighting and looking like they can open a can of whoop ass!
+ No Blastoff

Bad Points

- Not enough Zuruggu action
- Blander than bland COTD. OMG There wasn't an ounce of personality in there. Hollow shell character was a hollow shell.
- Ash not referencing Gible upon seeing Draco Meteor (for that alone, all copies of this episode need to be burned)
- Pokabu - Personality = Boredom
- Everybody's personality chip was off this week... except maybe TR but even then.
- Cliché plot... We've seen it all before... a lot... and I mean... a lot.

Overall, not bad, not good, but the thing I dreaded happened here. I just didn't care. Iris was doing stuff and quite frankly, I just didn't give a crap. Her "I want to be a dragon master" riff rings sorta hollow when we saw her doing barely nothing to reach that goal in the last 26 episodes (might as well say 29 cause I highly doubt she did anything to that effect in BW23-24 and BW26... if she did anything at all). Her constant inaction and nagging throughout the beginning of BW were anything but endearing and ultimately didn't make her relatable or interesting... so when I watch an episode like this... I just don't care.

Even after an episode like this, there's nothing about Iris' personality or storyline that I find interesting. So yeah... as of now, I just don't care.

She really is the new Brock.

 

[Yoshi-san]

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I thought the plot of this episode was overdone too. It really didn't stand out at all.

I agree though this episode was entertaining IMO.

 

[SolgaleoGX]

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I really enjoyed this. And no, it wasn't because of Druddigon, like I had expected. Druddingon was like a cross between the Aerodactyl of the Gary special and Ash's Charizard.

What made this episode for me was Iris. Why are you so evil with us writers? If you stick Iris to her goal most of the time you've got yourselves something highly enjoyable and consistent. Now I'm really likeing Iris again, but I bet I'll be dissapointed in her again come 5 or so episodes.

TR..they weren't as annoying as they where before BW, but, was this really that necessary?

 

[Iteru]

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- I liked how Dent was standing while Satoshi, Pikachu and Zurrug had collapsed due to Dragon Rage. And +1 for training at the start.

- Iris sure likes Dragon types if she'll happily say their name after they fire a Flame Emission at her xD

- Pikachu seemed kinda cute with the arm movements...

- I thought it was quite good how Iris approached Crimgan carefully and showed that she wasn't a threat before removing the binding as it reminds me of approaches to helping animals in distress.

- This sounds kinda random, but I liked how much detail they gave Musashi's lips when you could only see the lower half of her face. The extra detail for stuff like this really "polishes" the animation off.

- I was a little bit disappointed that Crimgan didn't seem to have Sharkskin as an ability, though I love that Pokabu has adopted Charbu's stomping in the build up to Nitro Charge. I always wanted it to do that. The battle was a little bit short (though this is an Iris episode so not unexpected), but I thought it was entertaining nonetheless.

- Someday I will learn that technique of climbing up trees and cliffs by spreading out my arms and running. Someday...

- I loved that we got a flashback from Iris. I'm quite enjoying seeing them explain her backstory and what she was told from the village elder. One of my hopes is that we see the elder later on in the saga, to comment on Iris' growth which this episode is developing.

- They really like the Satoshi vs Gishin track from the Arceus movie to include it again after BW15 and BW16 xD

- I didn't quite get Iris being able to see Kibago and Crimgan, or was she just focusing on listening to them cry out in the distance?

- I quite liked when Deathmas used Night Head (as Shadow Ball was getting a little bit overused) and that we got to see how much Crimgan cared for Emmy.

- Dragon Meteor Shower and Dragon Rage looked beautifully animated, especially Deathmas getting hit by one of the meteors. I was pleased to see that the Rocket-Dan did not blast off.

Overall I thought this was a really good episode. Emmy was a little bit flat, but the development that Iris got was both interesting and progressed her story as well as giving us some insight into her potential with Dragons in the future. I thought that the Rocket-Dan attack was okay and I liked how the Pokémon escaped by themselves.

So yeah, good episode

 

[MarshiyanMisutaa]

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I thought it was quite good how Iris approached Crimgan carefully and showed that she wasn't a threat before removing the binding as it reminds me of approaches to helping animals in distress.

It reminds me Satoshi's approach to Pokabu in BW004. Did Iris learn something from a kid? :-D

Ironically, that was the most boring BW episode for me. As Iris episodes, BW27 and BW28 was hundred times better. And what is Iris' goal exactly? Is become a "Dragon Master" similar to Misty's goal? Or something related to Kibago's raising (like she said in BW009)?

 

[Necrozma]

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This was a great episode, another awesome Iris focused episode!

TR were cool as well!

 

[Dr. Buni]

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Awesome episode, one of the best so far.
Desumasu's Night Shade and Kibago's Dragon Rage were pure win.

 

[Aestivate]

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I really liked this episode because it really shows the baby steps Iris is taking to develop her character. It's really subtle and gradual; she didn't kodome ne anyone today.

Edit: and the animation, WOW. I know this was an Iwane episode; but gaaahhh the attention to detail was just incredible! The little things, like Kojiro's eye shape, and Musashi's face in general. Just stunning.

And the trailer for the new movie that played afterward got me really excited for it. It looks awesome.

 

[pharaohyami5000]

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So did this feel like an Iris episode at all?

It's more Kibago/Axew episode to me, although I do admit Iris got a good part in this episode.

As stated from some, Emmy wasn't much to be remembered. First time I saw her in the previews, I thought she was Fuuro/Skyla. Glad this wasn't her. I expect better once Skyla finally reaches her appearance.

Draco Meteor seem to be the same as DP's as I hardly see much difference. Shame Gible wasn't referenced for this.

Other than these, the episode this week felt like the usual generic ones. Seem they're starting to slow down a bit here.

 

[Yoshi-san]

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I really liked this episode because it really shows the baby steps Iris is taking to develop her character. It's really subtle and gradual; she didn't kodome ne anyone today.

This. I forgot to point that out too!

 

[Masurao]

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Lol, why the hell was this episode titled Kibago vs Crimgan anway?

 

[Siggu]

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Ok... undoubtely it was a worse episode than the previous ones. However, there are two scenes that surprised me:

Spoiler

Jessie and James dodging Dragon Pulse without much effort

Spoiler

Ok... now that Axew used Dragon Rage successfully, Team Rocket will be the target. Will they blast off for the first time in BW?

*As Dragon Rage is about to 'hit' TR, a shot of the mountain appears*

I immediately said to myself: They'll blast off

*Seconds later*

WHAT!!?? They had enough time to escape with jetpacks!?

The fact that they did a mountain shot while Dragon Rage exploded doesn't help. I'm sure they WANTED to surprise us, even when we know that TR is serious now

 

[Rocketshipper]

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someone needs to make a .gif of Team Rocket dodging the Dragon pulse.

pleaaaaase!!!!

 

[Hassel]

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someone needs to make a .gif of Team Rocket dodging the Dragon pulse.

pleaaaaase!!!!

I'll make one once I get the episode, lol. Got a perfect text to add there as well...

 

[dman_dustin]

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...so? Just because they don't pull this stuff off frequently anymore, doesn't suddenly make it better when it does happen.

Come on now, what is Team Rocket's overall goal? To have the most powerful Pokemon and take over the world. They can't do that by twiddling their thumbs, especially if Giovanni is in "meetings" for the whole damn time.

I honestly cannot see the difference between how Team Rocket were portrayed in this episode than with J. In the end no matter the circumstances, J always got thwarted (well maybe technically it would be: failed) and she never was successful in her nefarious plots at stealing Pokemon, well except maybe the Lake Trio though that didn't work out perfectly.

So why should J get praised for being the best villain character in DP, when actually Team Galactic has succeeded more than her and Team Rocket pretty much acted the same way in this episode than previously.

So I can't see the complaint about Team Rocket. OBVIOUSLY Team Rocket can't succeed in their plans at stealing Pokemon (except when they are supposed to steal the Pokemon I.E. Yanma/Yanmega. Maybe later on they will and it will be a three episode arc revolving around the twerps trying to get their Pokemon back.

But for what it was Team Rocket were a hell of a lot more threatening in this episode than they've ever been. They had an air ship, they had an intelligent plan, and were only brought down by Pokemon moves. Honestly if it wasn't for the fact that Team Rocket nor any Evil Team Organization are always supposed to fail in the end. I can't see why Team Rocket wouldn't have succeeded.